April 24, 2008 - Daily Brief
Written by Jeff on April 24th, 2008Yesterday on my ride home from work, I spotted at least three 40+ foot motorhomes parked around Railroad Avenue and 13th Street. I guess the cowboys decided to come early and stay in style this year for the festival that starts today. Yeehaa!
News
- Hung Jury in Castro Murder Trial: Jurors deadlocked 9-3 in favor of acquittal on the murder charge against Esperanza Castro, the 45 year old Canyon Country woman who was accused of killing her husband in 2006. The County DA’s office is deciding whether to try her again and in the meantime is keeping her in custody(!). Parimal Rohit has an excellent story and speaks with a few jurors about the case. “The big problem with the plaintiff’s case was that the detectives were sneaky and leading,” one juror told Rohit.
- Group forms up to fight Avenues Project: Katie Geyer reports today on community opposition to the Avenues Project, a mixed use development sporting twin “12 story buildings, retail shops, and 800 residential units” in the old Smiser Mule ranch property wedged between Wiley Canyon Road and Interstate 5. The project was detailed by proponents at the City Council meeting on Tuesday but a new neighborhood group, the Calgrove Corridor Coalition told the new city council “We’re not going to let this slide by.” The 37 acre project looks to be very preliminary at this point - paid booster Jeff Lambert even admitted they don’t have a “full picture” of traffic issues yet. As for the City Staff? “City staff shares the opinions of the public,” honcho Ken Pulskamp told the Council. Geyer has the report, WeThePeopleSCV site, Avenues website
- Castaic gets dumped on part 1: Some 30 lbs of dynamite were found in El Monte yesterday and some 200 people near the business where it was found were evacuated. Authorities say a man who purchased the TNT several years ago tried to return it all once to a business in the area. So what’s this got to do with the SCV? Well, rather than detonate it in El Monte, Sheriff’s Bomb squad officials “later chose to trasport [the tnt] to Castaic and destroy it there.” Huh?
- Castaic gets dumped on part 2: The Signal finally has a nice detailed article on the proposed Women’s jail facility the County wants to build on Pitchess Detention Center Property. Reporter Jim Holt says the 1,000 unit jail will be medium-security (no barbed wire a county exec says) with rehabilitative programs and fewer guards. The county hopes to open the facility by 2012 and says it should help with overcrowding county-wide. Report
- More on bear attack that killed Canyon Country man: Stephan Miller, the 39 year old Canyon Country man who was killed when a trained grizzly bear bit him on the neck Tuesday, was an experienced animal trainer and worked for years “with wild animals used in the entertainment industry,” Carol Rock at KHTS reports. Rock also spoke with Sue DiSesso, who’s late husband Moe was famous for training animals for movies. DiSesso knew Miller and says everyone in that business is “shook up about this, it’s a real tragedy.” Meanwhile, the Times Online,a UK paper, says that the bear, Rocky, may be put down which is really sad in my mind given that the bear is on our state flag and humans caused the Grizzly’s extinction in California. There’s also a YouTube video of the bear in a recent movie.
- Jon Dell blogs from Sacramento and gets educated on water, .edu: The KHTS news director says the SCV delegation that visited the Capital this week for talks with state officials had a packed schedule on Tuesday. Among other things, the group met with water officials, state senator George Runner, Audra Strickland, education officials, and of course Cameron Smyth, who co-sponsored the trip. Dell says he learned a lot: “And as the sun set over the flat farmland along the I-5, I couldn’t help but sit back and wonder how much I had learned about our town. I knew water availability was an issue, but I didn’t know that it was the number one issue in state politics,” he says, concluding: “It was a successful trip. We made our voices heard in a constructive way.” Link
- Hasley Hills gets hug from City, prepped for big day at County: The Hasley Hills neighborhood plus the economic might of the Valencia Commerce Center will go before LAFCO this summer after the City Council voted this week to close the application and send it off. Katie Geyer says LAFCO could take six to 12 months to process the application. If approved, the City would add some 1,400 homes and 6 million square-feet of commercial space to its territory. The city would also have to redraw its map, extending the pink of Santa Clarita proper into the white of LA County on the west side of the 5. Go get em tiger
Blogs
The Signal did not arrive on my doorstep today, so I have no idea if there are any worthy LTEs to mention, but here’s the latest from the SCV blogosphere
- SCVegan reviews controversial ZPizza chain in Valencia: The Vegan blogger, in touch with all things vegan in the SCV, says much controversy “surrounds ZPizza within the vegan community.” He traces the reasons for that controversy then gives a positive review of the pizza he received there. Any pizza is good pizza
- SCVTalkers opine on Hart elimination of instructional assistants: ReaderMama, an SCVTalker, consistently writes reasonable and intelligent posts; this time she opines on trouble with RSPs as the district and concludes, “I think the Hart District would be better served by eliminating a few higher paid positions in administrative areas rather than making massive cuts at the bottom tier. Let’s start with the Director of Personnel. and work our way up.” Link
- We’re lucky to have Laurie Ender: A Variety blogger says Santa Clarita is “lucky to have such a formidable talent on its city council” in the form of Laurie Ender. Wait, Variety? Yeah, remember Ender used to work as a “top producer” for Entertainment Tonight and Access Hollywood, so the Valencia mom has some “Hollywood Elite” connections. The blogger, reporter Cynthia Littleton, says Ender is the “kind of best-and-brightest, pillar of her community that is desperately needed in politics, particularly at the rubber-meets-the-road local level.” She traces Ender’s community roles here in the SCV, her boss-like status of the SCV PTA, and says Ender’s so remarkable that she may be making news in Santa Clarita, but has the talent to perhaps go onto Sacramento and Washington DC. High Praise for our Councilmember
- Mmmm. I love April in the SCV: It’s the best month in Santa Clarita, BY FAR. The cool breezes of the last few days have just been wonderful. Anyway, those breezes are carrying certain smells, particularly roses which are in full bloom this year. I’m going to snap some pictures of rose bushes around my house, but in the meanwhile, you can satisfy your rose fetish by reading this Ventura County Star article about a Fillmore woman who has some 400 (!) roses in her backyard. Even SCV “master rosarian” Kitty Belendez is shocked by how many roses this woman has. Link
- And last but not least: Try not to get too upset with me if you see me pedaling around the SCV. I just added the patch below to my commuting bag so that when I pull up in front of an SUV at an intersection, they know exactly how much I pay to transport myself.
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Great brief, and even greater patch!
Would seem like an uphill battle to re-try Castro given the certainty of the “non-guilty” jurors.
Casein or no casein, the ingredient list for the the soy “cheese” reads like a box of margarine. Zpizza also makes a to-do about using skim milk mozzarella, which is just marginally lower in fat than whole milk mozzarella, but comes with a major trade off in texture and taste. I’m not impressed. The only thing I really like is that they keep their by-the-slice pizzas very warm.
note: the state flag depicts a California Grizzly Bear, which is extinct.
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Call me crazy, but I’m not particularly encouraged that a busload of SCV’s finest met with only Republican members of the Legislature. Republicans are in a very tiny minority, which may even shrink to 1/3 or less in one or both chambers in the next election. I’d much rather have an Assemblyman who is making BFFs with key Democratic legislators than connecting our best and brightest with slightly less obscure minority party players. I’d be surprised if more than five people out of the 50 were Democrats, so to them I guess it made sense to them to get a briefing on Republican party strategy, but in Sacramento our valley isn’t necessary better served by the success of a conservative agenda or the failure of a liberal agenda, or God forbid a centrist and bipartisan agenda. We’re much better off if the people who matter know and care about our community. Smyth has never struck me as a ideologue. I would have expected that he would have put forth a more diverse group of lawmakers.
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It certainly appears that Brother Mike woke up on the wrong side of bed this fine morning.
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The trip to Sac. was nothing more than a junket. This junket will come at taxpayers expense once
Goldman and others claim the trip as a business expense.
If they wanted to talk with Cameron, they could have stopped by his house on Saturday or waited until the next GOB event here in town.
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Bob, not bitter day at all, just some observations. If you would have heard me when I was typing, you would have heard a helpful, but concerned tone in my voice.
But I’m always cranky about bad pizza.
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“until the next GOB event here in town”
With heavy appetizer and drink provided by our resident attorney, no doubt.
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Shoutout to the Newsmakers, by the way. Woo!
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On TNT in Castaic
If I remember correctly, the bomb squad has a training facility back behind the Animal Shelter.
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And now Cash is cranky too. Bummer!
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“With heavy appetizer and drink provided by our resident attorney, no doubt”.
Right on, another taxpayer subsidised event, but what the hell!
The money for the “heavy appetizer and drink” would be spent locally, satisfying Palskamps silly taxpayer funded buy local campaign. LOL
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“And now Cash is cranky too. Bummer!”
Not cranky, just feed up with small town politics. Thank goodness the residents are starting to speak out. SmartgrowthSCV and other citizen groups have arrived none to soon in my book. It is time Palskamp and other in the City begin to realize for whom they work. Ms. Marsha misspoke at the last Council meeting when she said Palskamp works for the City Council, he works for the taxpayers. All taxpayers, not just the special interest taxpayers. Someone said Palskamp is a bit arrogant, I would add that he is very arrogant!
Sorry I got off point.
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Cash, I agree 100% with your last message, but we cannot despair. Palskamp must go to some other gig… maybe up near San Francisco where he would be fully appreciated.
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cash, it’s a bit hard to see you as a serious critic when you can’t even get Mr. Pulskamp’s name correct.
The City manager does indeed work for and serve at the pleasure of the council. If they don’t believe he is carrying out their direction, they are free to replace him. The City Council is elected by the taxpayers and to serve the taxpayers - the folks over at City Hall are bureaucrats hired to carry out the direction of the Council. Why do you think Council has to approve a budget twice a year? If you believe that the taxpayers’ interests are not being served, then petition the Council as they have control over the budget. That’s a lot more effective that placing the blame on employees carrying out Council’s direction.
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My my, Anonymous Commenter… such naivete. Don’t you know that it’s the power of money yielded by lobbyist/developers who are running City Hall - all for the so-called “greater good”?
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“cash, it’s a bit hard to see you as a serious critic when you can’t even get Mr. Pulskamp’s name correct.”
This is the best you can offer! A misspelling! Get real! This council minus TimBen is controlled by the special interest. The previous City manager was fired because he had the balls to stand up and disagree with the council on many occasions ( and yes I know there were other issues).
Collectively the Council lacks the common business sense to know if the budget is appropriate or not. They brag of a $15,000,000.00 reserve, but this reserve is achieved by not fulfilling the mandates of the taxpayers, like completing the cross valley connector. Not to mention that the condition of many of the existing roads are crumbling. The City is in for a rude awakening, once the true impact of the economic downturn is realized.
Pulskamp is a puppet not a manager!
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Cash,
Off point or not, your right on about Pulskamp. The city manger does just that, manages (everything). He has more pull and power then any person at city hall and he knows it. I don’t understand how he has skated by all this time without any public scrutiny. In our case Pulskamp sits by carrying out his urbanization plan for our neighborhoods, drawing up assessments, and never being held accountable for it. He lets the council take the brunt of it while he fades away into the Santa Clarita night. He know what he wants and he knows he can get it as long as the public doesn’t know how the city works.
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Anonymous Commenter– sounds like hes over at city hall right now reading internet sites (scvtalk). Are you Ken Pulskamp by any chance?? That sounds like something you would say. You need to modulate your verbiage so it’s not so suspect.
Cheers everyone.
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I’ll restate my earlier point — if you believe the developers and lobbyists are running City Hall, then I encourage you to try to change the makeup of the Council. You might call me naive, but I am not uninformed or inexperienced in working with local government.
Driving in L.A. every day, I don’t believe the city streets in SCV are crumbling and in fact are much better maintained than other places I’ve lived, and the city is very responsive in filling potholes and storm drain maintenance. I, too, wish the CVC had been completed sooner and that more plans were being made to build needed road infrastructure.
I quite honestly don’t understand your comment on the reserves. Should the City has spent every dime prior to now, to be left with no reserves as revenues start to drop? I find the reserves to be good thing that will keep the city running during economic downturn.
We clearly don’t agree on many issues and this is not going to be constructive, so I’ll bow out now.
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Clearly, it got too hot in the kitchen for Anonymous Commenter… must be another retreating liberal?
WethepeopleSCV & Cash, we need more like you!
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“I’ll restate my earlier point — if you believe the developers and lobbyists are running City Hall, then I encourage you to try to change the makeup of the Council. You might call me naive, but I am not uninformed or inexperienced in working with local government.”
I did not call you naive, are you insecure! Be care for what you wish! I believe such a movement is underway.
The issue of reserves is that they are bragging about having such a reserve when the taxpayer needs are not being met. You can call it fuzzy math and perhaps that will help you understand the point.
Try traveling the neighborhoods and you will better understand the crumbling street comment. Filling pot holes is not the issue, a long term street replacement plan is. Reserves to keep the city running while the quality of service declines is nothing to brag about. I would fire the City mouth, Gail, and other positions that add no value. With the downturn in development, City staff could probably be downsized. If Kenny were a true manager, he would be looking at such opportunities.
By the way, I will call the City manager Kenny, that way you can’t complain about the spelling.
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Anonymous,
Your right about the good things in our city. It’s nice that we can manage ourselves and streets far better then LA to the south. We have a lot to be thankful for. Sure we have our road issues and they do crumble but we have the advantage of our size. We are fast approaching a time where the attention given to maintenance will be less responsive. The worry here is big $ interests who just don’t care about our social and neighborhood environments. They want to engineer a scenario that only benefits them while telling everyone else to deal with it. That “they will get over it” mentality by developers isn’t going to fly anymore. The Avenue at Santa Clarita is a good example of that mentality. Santa Claritans have had enough of this blatant dismantling of our uniqueness for the corporate bottom dollar. That doesn’t mean all growth is bad because it isn’t. It’s the projects that try to skirt the laws, zoning regulations, and the will of the citizens who moved into an awesome place to live.
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Yes there are may good things about this City, but I am not sure they are all to the credit of the City Staff or Council. A couple good actions that I will credit the city with are graffiti removal and support of law enforcement. The list of poor actions is probably much longer! Downtown Newhall is on that list.
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See, now, this is conversation I can get behind instead of name calling.
@cash: no, not insecure, Bob commented on my “naivete” and I mixed my responses to you both. I’ll be more clear. I will continue to disagree with you on the issue of the reserves. I don’t believe it is fuzzy math, but a matter of making trade-offs. If all the money had been spent and projects postponed and cuts to service made as soon as revenue dropped, would that be better? I would rather see conservative spending and delayed projects during good times so progress can continue despite a downturn.
What evidence do you have that staff should be downsized? You cite one position, Gail, but wouldn’t someone still have to answer to the press and disseminate information if you fired her? The city has been conservative in adding positions every year compared to city growth, and you can see in past budgets the number of new positions approved each year. The city also uses contractors to supplement employees, so during tighter economic time the contractors can be let go to manage costs.
I do live in Santa Clarita, and I will admit to not seeing any road issues in the neighborhoods I travel. It’s unfortunate if your roads are in distress, but under the squeaky wheel theory I’d encourage you to notify the city, and they can probably also tell you when your street is due for repaving. Their website has an eService form for that kind of thing.
@Wethepeople: I applaud your activism. You oppose a project, you’re well-informed about it, and you are actively working to prevent it instead of just complaining and name-calling. That’s the kind of discourse we need.
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The city does keep a very tight leash on creating new staff positions, he is correct. Even PIO, which I’m not crazy about is not a big operation compared to cities of a similar size. I wish they didn’t spend so much money advertising little events, co-promoting for-profit events or completely wasting money on things like the “THANK YOU BUCK” banners, but their operation isn’t a very big one.
I think the bureaucracy is lean and efficient and the reserves are healthy. I don’t think the CVC is the cure-all that is worth dumping reserves into. It will get done sooner or later.
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Dear Anonymous Commenter, upon review of the messages above, it’s clear that you bowed out prior to being labeled a retreating liberal.
Perhaps you’ve noticed the inumerable high density dwellings that have contributed greatly to SCV’s heavy traffic problem. In my opinion, it was the constant construction of Condos, Apt & high rise commercial buildings that led to SFV’s deterioration - resulting in thousands moving here. I don’t think we need to repeat that error as SCV’s roadway layout cannot handle more density.
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Anonymous Commenter made a point of stating that they ‘live’ in Santa Clarita. I was asked a question awhile back ago when this ‘G&L’ project became a hot topic at the City Council meetings. Actually 2: 1) do any of the lobbyists/developers/Seaver not live in Santa Clarita and 2) who? I didn’t know, but since it was brought up in “conversation” now I thought I’d ask that of you all.
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I believe our most active/energetic lobbyist, Mr. Jeffrey Lambert, lives in Sherman Oaks. Anonymous Commenter will likely confirm this.
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“What evidence do you have that staff should be downsized? You cite one position, Gail, but wouldn’t someone still have to answer to the press and disseminate information if you fired her? The city has been conservative in adding positions every year compared to city growth, and you can see in past budgets the number of new positions approved each year. The city also uses contractors to supplement employees, so during tighter economic time the contractors can be let go to manage costs”.
Developers filing bankruptcy would indicate the need for fewer in plan check and construction inspection. If they let the contractor go, great!
The point on reserves is that they are far from sufficient to manage the out years and keep up with the needs of the taxpayers. The current 15 million is a reflection of the city already staying up with things like roads and traffic, in order to claim the reserve. That is the fuzzy math. Tell us that you are meeting the expectations of the taxpayers, and then you can brag about having the reserves, should they truly exist.
I live a a part of the city that is well cared, if I lived in Canyon Country, I would be pissed at anyone that bragged about a 15 million reserve in the same breath that they said how great they thought they were managing the needs of the city.
As far as Gail is concerned, the City website has a process in place for asking and receiving information. We could do just fine without Gail.
Do not conclude that I am not active in bringing change to the city government. That would be a mistake on your part.
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SB: The current 15 million is a reflection of the city already “NOT” staying up with things like roads and traffic, in order to claim the reserve.
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@Bob: huh? I have no idea where Mr. Lambert lives. I do not work for the city, nor am I a developer or lobbyist. I’m just a resident, who like most of you, is probably better informed than that average citizen. I’m not sure what compelled me to jump in and comment today (and continue to get baited into responding) but I’m unlikely to make that mistake again once this thread dies.
@lvogel: https://www.secure-santa-clarita.com/scvlobbyist/viewLobbyist_ByClient.asp
It won’t tell you where the lobbyists live but the address of their business.
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Lvogal, the lobbyists & Seaver live here in SCV. The lobbyists live right over near HMNMH. G&L people live somewhere else.
Anonymous- Thank you for your remarks. Your points are all well made and I agree with you.
Density does weigh heavily on infrastructure and there is a point where it’s not modifiable to handle transportation anymore. I could be wrong but I think that was Bob’s take.
I would like us to remain conservative in our view of sprawl and or density building. Some try, however, when the Avenue was brought before the city and neighborhoods it should have never reflected the enormous over build they presented. Thats why we have all the excitement over it. If I lived in an area like NoHo, studio city, or even the westside I would would have an urban point of view and invite a cool looking project like that. (those home owners there keep it out of there neighborhoods also) The tone and way of life here is not that way so while I agree that density is good, it needs to be appropriately placed in an area that reflects that lifestyle and environment. That goes for any project our city looks at.
((One thing I would say about the surplus we have is that we should have never heaped another assessment on hard working home owners for Open Space when 15 million is all we currently have out 35 million from a floated bond that will take far beyond 30 years to pay back. It will take years to find land to spend that $15 million at the rate land become available to purchase. We should have continued to buy open space as we have been for years being that we have a surplus that would have generously funded Open Space, over time, without ever seeing the Red. Not to mention the 1300 acres we have had donated in the last 6 months we didn’t need to spend any $ on.))
O well, old news I guess. Anyway, Great conversation here.
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Anonymous,
It’s all good. It’s hard for me to be here with work and all. When I do have time I pop in like the rest. Comment anytime, it was good to have in this conversation.
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I would argue that the fight against density is what contributes to the sprawl and thus reduces open space. If we let commercial buildings get taller, we wouldn’t need some much land for so many flat and wide buildings. Additionally, the harder it is to find work here, the more congested the freeways will be. This has to be in conjunction with lots of other things of course. I’m not quite sure why everyone is so content with the general development model in this region. Sprawling things further and further out is what made the SFV so nasty.
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If you build high rise buildings the sprawl won’t be stopped. You will just end up with high rise buildings and sprawl. This unless you place some kind of moratorium on development or buy the open space for a premium.
The Avenue idea is a bad idea and it would set the wrong precedent.
Without improving the transportation infrastructure first, no development should be approved anywhere in the valley. It is only common sense that this be done.
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Without improving the transportation infrastructure first, no development should be approved anywhere in the valley. It is only common sense that this be done.
Your idea for improving transportation infrastructure is to just build more of it. That’s not a solution at all.
Who here is in favor of wide, 60 mph roadways instead of nice, pleasant walkable communities?
As for the jobs? It’s a tough situation. But they’ll come. Even low paying retail jobs that you can walk to are better than low paying retail jobs you have to drive to.
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45 mph is good enough for me.
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Jeff are you serious?
Jeff on Apr 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Even low paying retail jobs that you can walk to are better than low paying retail jobs you have to drive to.
Unless you work 60 to 80 hours a week, a salary in ‘retail’ won’t cover the cost of a mortgage and food in this valley!
So much for the ‘good life’ in Santa Clarita…..maybe when you have the time to enjoy it?
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“Your idea for improving transportation infrastructure is to just build more of it. That’s not a solution at all.”" Who here is in favor of wide, 60 mph roadways instead of nice, pleasant walkable communities”
Don’t put words in my mouth. The infrastructure we now have is inadequate. My point is that until this is corrected, no more develop should occur that will add to the problem. And future development should be required to maintain the optimum infrastructure.
Your idea of the ideal community has passed you by. The Valencia concept works fine. From my house, should I elect, I can walk or ride my bike to anything I need; food, movies, etc.
The Avenue project only adds to the problem and solves none of them.
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The Valencia concept works for a tiny speck of this valley, and a very small part of Valencia, at that.
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Jeff may be thinking more than on family can live in the new condo units, mush lie they do in parts Newhall and Canyon Country. Even the set aside of low income units will be too costly for a family of 4, with mom and dad waiting tables or taking theater tickets. Jeff, I think you need a reality check.
People that live there will drive to other places to work and recreate.
You have said you can barely make ends meet in your old apartment. What are you smoking today?
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mush lie = much like
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“The Valencia concept works for a tiny speck of this valley, and a very small part of Valencia, at that”.
It works for a large portion of Valencia unless you are restricting the distance you are willing to walk or ride your bike. The Paseo system will take you where ever you want to go. How is this Avenue project going to change your current situation? It is not. Unless you plan to move to the Avenue.
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Something completely random and WAY OFF the subject…….
Are we ever going to find out what “Jumped the Shark” means? Hey, I’m curious and tired of the ‘Avenue talk’!
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The term jumping the shark alludes to a specific scene in a 1977 episode of the TV series Happy Days when the popular character Arthur “Fonzie” Fonzarelli literally jumps over a shark while water skiing. The scene was so preposterous that many believed it to be an ill-conceived attempt at reviving the declining ratings of the flagging show. The phrase has become a colloquialism used by U.S. TV critics and fans to denote the point at which the characters or plot of a TV series veer into a ridiculous, out-of-the-ordinary storyline. Such a show is typically deemed to have passed its peak. Once a show has “jumped the shark” fans sense a noticeable decline in quality or feel the show has undergone too many changes to retain its original appeal.
Jump-the-shark moments may be scenes like the one described above that finally convince viewers that the show has fundamentally and permanently strayed from its original premise. In those cases they are viewed as a desperate and futile attempt to keep a series fresh in the face of declining ratings. In other cases the departure or replacement of a main cast member or character or a significant change in setting changes a critical dynamic of the show. These changes are often attempts to attract their fans’ waning attention with over-the-top statements or increasingly overt appeals to sex or violence.
The term has also evolved to describe other areas of pop culture including movie series, musicians, actors or authors for whom a drastic change was seen as the beginning of the end or marking the moment the subject is “past its peak.” When referring to celebrities, the related term jumping the couch is often used if the moment is a personal act of “going off the deep end”.[1][2]
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Sorry,I forgot to give my source. It was Yahoo!
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There are more than few city slugs who need to go, Gail is just at the top of my list. Who is spending their time submitting the city for every freakin award under the sun? And then publicizing it when they win 5th place for best accounting? Who are the jerks running around “checking sound” at the concerts in the park events? Or standing there taking pictures? Why does the city need pictures of the concerts, oh yeah, to submit for best musical city or some such nonsense.
There are many roads/facilities in dire need of repair, they just don’t happen to be around city hall, wonder why? Why do the city folks pay for primo space in the heart of town? And, pay for parking spots for city employees? I think the city ought to have mandatory alternative transportation - at the very least we shouldn’t be paying for all those parking spots.
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Thanks Cash for the definition. Funny I remember that episode, but the connection wasn’t there.