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		<title>By: rosieray</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/10/09/notes-on-david-gauny-for-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-2320</link>
		<dc:creator>rosieray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Gauny,
will you listen to the &quot;people&quot; about what they really need for commuter bus transportation and not what the city council  thinks they need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Gauny,<br />
will you listen to the &#8220;people&#8221; about what they really need for commuter bus transportation and not what the city council  thinks they need.</p>
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		<title>By: Need for Involved Citizenry</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/10/09/notes-on-david-gauny-for-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-2306</link>
		<dc:creator>Need for Involved Citizenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OVOV will allow several very high density communities in Santa Clarita.  The problem with high density development in our area is that it just puts more cars on the road.  High density works in places like Chicago and New York because they have the transportation infrastructure to make it work.  People just don&#039;t need cars!  Unfortunately, Santa Clarita has one train line that effectively only goes to Sylmar, Burbank, Glendale and Downtown.  
Why would someone buy a property in a high density development in Santa Clarita when they could get the same thing downtown without the hour commute?  They wouldn&#039;t so that means these folks will drive through the failing Newhall Pass because these dense developments won&#039;t provide the high quality jobs that folks need out here.  Are these folks gonnal take the 50 minute bus trip from Canyon Country to the Valencia Industrial Center?  Get real!

Put high density where it belongs - in places that are real transportation hubs - like Downtown LA!  Higher Density is not Smart Growth per se.  It all depends where you put it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OVOV will allow several very high density communities in Santa Clarita.  The problem with high density development in our area is that it just puts more cars on the road.  High density works in places like Chicago and New York because they have the transportation infrastructure to make it work.  People just don&#8217;t need cars!  Unfortunately, Santa Clarita has one train line that effectively only goes to Sylmar, Burbank, Glendale and Downtown.<br />
Why would someone buy a property in a high density development in Santa Clarita when they could get the same thing downtown without the hour commute?  They wouldn&#8217;t so that means these folks will drive through the failing Newhall Pass because these dense developments won&#8217;t provide the high quality jobs that folks need out here.  Are these folks gonnal take the 50 minute bus trip from Canyon Country to the Valencia Industrial Center?  Get real!</p>
<p>Put high density where it belongs &#8211; in places that are real transportation hubs &#8211; like Downtown LA!  Higher Density is not Smart Growth per se.  It all depends where you put it.</p>
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		<title>By: Indy</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/10/09/notes-on-david-gauny-for-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-2265</link>
		<dc:creator>Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Will you support a year round homeless shelter to help the homeless get jobs all year round?

Will you continue on with the Council&#039;s effort to add a religious affirmation to our city seal?

The fact that you posted to a site like this makes me lean in your direction . . . but I agree with Cash, we need to get away from the &#039;Kellar politics&#039;. 

Finally, &#039;growth&#039; decisions are made by the residents in their homes versus developers who only build for the &#039;demand&#039; that exist.

Until the public grasp that concept, they keep electing people to do something about growth that really have no hand in it other to respond to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Will you support a year round homeless shelter to help the homeless get jobs all year round?</p>
<p>Will you continue on with the Council&#8217;s effort to add a religious affirmation to our city seal?</p>
<p>The fact that you posted to a site like this makes me lean in your direction . . . but I agree with Cash, we need to get away from the &#8216;Kellar politics&#8217;. </p>
<p>Finally, &#8216;growth&#8217; decisions are made by the residents in their homes versus developers who only build for the &#8216;demand&#8217; that exist.</p>
<p>Until the public grasp that concept, they keep electing people to do something about growth that really have no hand in it other to respond to it.</p>
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		<title>By: cash</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/10/09/notes-on-david-gauny-for-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-2152</link>
		<dc:creator>cash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it appears Bob Kellar support David. I hope Bob&#039;s attendance at the announcement indicates this to be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it appears Bob Kellar support David. I hope Bob&#8217;s attendance at the announcement indicates this to be the case.</p>
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		<title>By: cash</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/10/09/notes-on-david-gauny-for-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-2149</link>
		<dc:creator>cash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;David Gauny&quot;.  The least I can do for someone that has helped this community so much is spell his name correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;David Gauny&#8221;.  The least I can do for someone that has helped this community so much is spell his name correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: cash</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/10/09/notes-on-david-gauny-for-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-2148</link>
		<dc:creator>cash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be a cynic,( I was not born one, but have lived to become one) but let&#039;s keep an eye on how the city works with Lennar to acquire the building NHL will soon vacate.  

Our city seems to walk a fine line between being only deceptive and not illegal. The people with money and influence that are capable of a court challenge, have no interest as they are generally the benefactors in one form or another. I thought Ben Curtis had finally called the city council out, but that matter seems to have been swept away. 

We need David Guany and TimBen.  The incumbents have lost sight of right and wrong, or even the perception there of, something that can happen to those that have been in a position way too long.  Especially when those that they enable tell them what a great job they are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be a cynic,( I was not born one, but have lived to become one) but let&#8217;s keep an eye on how the city works with Lennar to acquire the building NHL will soon vacate.  </p>
<p>Our city seems to walk a fine line between being only deceptive and not illegal. The people with money and influence that are capable of a court challenge, have no interest as they are generally the benefactors in one form or another. I thought Ben Curtis had finally called the city council out, but that matter seems to have been swept away. </p>
<p>We need David Guany and TimBen.  The incumbents have lost sight of right and wrong, or even the perception there of, something that can happen to those that have been in a position way too long.  Especially when those that they enable tell them what a great job they are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gauny</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/10/09/notes-on-david-gauny-for-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-2142</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gauny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have much time but a couple of comments for the sake of clarity:

&lt;i&gt;We’ve mostly heard from Gauny when he’s 1)been opposed to the hospital and 2) morphed that organization into some sort of new “Smart Growth” movement which will be his main plank if his press conference today is any indication.&lt;/i&gt;

Jeff - My argument was with a for-profit venture married to a nonprofit hospital on a &quot;hospital expansion&quot; that never contractually included the hospital itself.  That&#039;s all - and I&#039;d appreciate it if you&#039;d note this in the future.

Not sure about your &quot;morphed&quot; Smart Growth comment.  This is not my intent and I never said it was.

&lt;i&gt;What the hell does “we must avoid the high-density, strip mall mentality” mean? Aren’t the two mutually exclusive?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, mutually exclusive and I&#039;m opposed to both if there are not better checks and balances from city council members to protect our neighborhoods AND business.

Strip malls have become are scars that draw a clear distinction between areas like Los Angeles and, say, better planned areas of Orange County.  In our case, they typically bring low-wage jobs, out of town employees (traffic) who then take earned dollars and spend them in their town, not ours.  I believe this is the opposite of what our city needs from every perspective.

I appreciate the conclusion of your post.  There are many key issues that are imminent to planning and our future community.  I&#039;m ready to talk about them and hope our public will step up and be heard.

Thanks, and I hope to have your support in April 2010.

David Gauny
www.electdavidgauny.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have much time but a couple of comments for the sake of clarity:</p>
<p><i>We’ve mostly heard from Gauny when he’s 1)been opposed to the hospital and 2) morphed that organization into some sort of new “Smart Growth” movement which will be his main plank if his press conference today is any indication.</i></p>
<p>Jeff &#8211; My argument was with a for-profit venture married to a nonprofit hospital on a &#8220;hospital expansion&#8221; that never contractually included the hospital itself.  That&#8217;s all &#8211; and I&#8217;d appreciate it if you&#8217;d note this in the future.</p>
<p>Not sure about your &#8220;morphed&#8221; Smart Growth comment.  This is not my intent and I never said it was.</p>
<p><i>What the hell does “we must avoid the high-density, strip mall mentality” mean? Aren’t the two mutually exclusive?</i></p>
<p>Yes, mutually exclusive and I&#8217;m opposed to both if there are not better checks and balances from city council members to protect our neighborhoods AND business.</p>
<p>Strip malls have become are scars that draw a clear distinction between areas like Los Angeles and, say, better planned areas of Orange County.  In our case, they typically bring low-wage jobs, out of town employees (traffic) who then take earned dollars and spend them in their town, not ours.  I believe this is the opposite of what our city needs from every perspective.</p>
<p>I appreciate the conclusion of your post.  There are many key issues that are imminent to planning and our future community.  I&#8217;m ready to talk about them and hope our public will step up and be heard.</p>
<p>Thanks, and I hope to have your support in April 2010.</p>
<p>David Gauny<br />
<a href="http://www.electdavidgauny.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.electdavidgauny.com</a></p>
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