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		<title>By: spineflower2</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/11/17/november-17-2009-daily-brief/comment-page-1/#comment-5089</link>
		<dc:creator>spineflower2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, instead of personal attacks, please stick to the actual issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, instead of personal attacks, please stick to the actual issue.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/11/17/november-17-2009-daily-brief/comment-page-1/#comment-5019</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, did you vote to endorse Colley?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, did you vote to endorse Colley?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin D. Korenthal</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/11/17/november-17-2009-daily-brief/comment-page-1/#comment-5017</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin D. Korenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have an opinion on any of this because I am largely ignorant, gullible and prone to manipulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have an opinion on any of this because I am largely ignorant, gullible and prone to manipulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Myers</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/11/17/november-17-2009-daily-brief/comment-page-1/#comment-4983</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spineflower2

They could &quot;take&quot; it but there would have to be compensation paid and one would have aggressive legal representation on the property owners side because one would have over 200 businesses, some of them large, splitting the cost.

Spineflower2, you seem like one of those Dodger fans that thinks the management can make trades just by adding people to the roster.  It doesn&#039;t work that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spineflower2</p>
<p>They could &#8220;take&#8221; it but there would have to be compensation paid and one would have aggressive legal representation on the property owners side because one would have over 200 businesses, some of them large, splitting the cost.</p>
<p>Spineflower2, you seem like one of those Dodger fans that thinks the management can make trades just by adding people to the roster.  It doesn&#8217;t work that way.</p>
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		<title>By: spineflower2</title>
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		<dc:creator>spineflower2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the district wanted to take away the deed restriction by eminent domain, they could.  They just won&#039;t.

And if they think they ewill build it at Hasley-Sloan they are naive, arrogant, or both.  Won&#039;t happen.  Move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the district wanted to take away the deed restriction by eminent domain, they could.  They just won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And if they think they ewill build it at Hasley-Sloan they are naive, arrogant, or both.  Won&#8217;t happen.  Move on.</p>
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		<title>By: IHeartSCV</title>
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		<dc:creator>IHeartSCV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Mr. Wilson; it is not you who has rejected the analysis but the analysis that has rejected you.  But seriously, it&#039;s an awful question.  &quot;Do you favor or oppose a government-run medical insurance plan that will lead to rationing, higher taxes, budget deficits, gross inefficiences, and increased government control of your life and the private sector?&quot; would have been better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Mr. Wilson; it is not you who has rejected the analysis but the analysis that has rejected you.  But seriously, it&#8217;s an awful question.  &#8220;Do you favor or oppose a government-run medical insurance plan that will lead to rationing, higher taxes, budget deficits, gross inefficiences, and increased government control of your life and the private sector?&#8221; would have been better.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2009/11/17/november-17-2009-daily-brief/comment-page-1/#comment-4955</link>
		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jonathan Kraut:I hate it when competency loses to hype.&quot;

Ironic that he would pen an article like this when his campaign for the COC board 4 years ago was based on nothing but hype, trying to leverage the voters&#039; &quot;ignorance&quot; onto the board of a college he knew next to nothing about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jonathan Kraut:I hate it when competency loses to hype.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ironic that he would pen an article like this when his campaign for the COC board 4 years ago was based on nothing but hype, trying to leverage the voters&#8217; &#8220;ignorance&#8221; onto the board of a college he knew next to nothing about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reject your analysis I Heart. Sure the &quot;compete with private insurance plans&quot; might bias respondents, but the phrase &quot;government-administered&quot; also conjures up, well, the DMV and IRS, which is why Frank Luntz and the GOP have emphasized &quot;government takeover&quot; so much. That&#039;s been the key phrase Buck has used since the spring. 

Furthermore, the last clause is a proposal the Admin is making. It is right to query the public on whether they support that, because that&#039;s what the Admin is proposing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reject your analysis I Heart. Sure the &#8220;compete with private insurance plans&#8221; might bias respondents, but the phrase &#8220;government-administered&#8221; also conjures up, well, the DMV and IRS, which is why Frank Luntz and the GOP have emphasized &#8220;government takeover&#8221; so much. That&#8217;s been the key phrase Buck has used since the spring. </p>
<p>Furthermore, the last clause is a proposal the Admin is making. It is right to query the public on whether they support that, because that&#8217;s what the Admin is proposing.</p>
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		<title>By: IHeartSCV</title>
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		<dc:creator>IHeartSCV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:

I omitted &quot;is&quot; from my first comment.  It should read: &quot;The one nationwide poll used was paid for by the Daily Kos which, like its creator Markos Moulitsas, is as liberal as they come.&quot;  (I guess it&#039;s a sloppy comment in terms of over-using pronouns).  I just wanted to say that the Daily Kos and Markos Moulitsas are both exceedingly liberal entities. 

I don&#039;t have much knowledge of Research 2000 as a polling body, but even if they polled perfectly honestly, the phrasing of the question skewed results in the favor of the poll&#039;s funder, Daily Kos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p>
<p>I omitted &#8220;is&#8221; from my first comment.  It should read: &#8220;The one nationwide poll used was paid for by the Daily Kos which, like its creator Markos Moulitsas, is as liberal as they come.&#8221;  (I guess it&#8217;s a sloppy comment in terms of over-using pronouns).  I just wanted to say that the Daily Kos and Markos Moulitsas are both exceedingly liberal entities. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have much knowledge of Research 2000 as a polling body, but even if they polled perfectly honestly, the phrasing of the question skewed results in the favor of the poll&#8217;s funder, Daily Kos.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC:

ALL the high schools have poor traffic access with the acception of Golden Valley and Valencia, and Valencia was nightmarish for years until Copperhill and Decoro were finished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC:</p>
<p>ALL the high schools have poor traffic access with the acception of Golden Valley and Valencia, and Valencia was nightmarish for years until Copperhill and Decoro were finished.</p>
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