Comments on: Strange Days http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/ a blog for SCV nerds by SCV nerds. Blogging Santa Clarita daily since 2006 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:36:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Interested Girl http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-8039 Interested Girl Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:50:10 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-8039 @gramps - still referring to disabled children are we? @gramps – still referring to disabled children are we?

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]]> By: Jim Farley http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7992 Jim Farley Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:08:54 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-7992 The bottom line to my argument. Be kind to all immigrants on the micro level, but regulate who gets in at the macro level. The bottom line to my argument.

Be kind to all immigrants on the micro level, but regulate who gets in at the macro level.

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]]> By: Jim Farley http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7991 Jim Farley Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:40:40 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-7991 I have a unique perspective to the immigration issue due to my job. I've been in the homes, and provided service for customers, in every neighborhood in So Cal from Beverly Hills to South Central, including every Hispanic community. This may be hard for some to believe but I have a deep affinity for the immigrant, even if illegal. Using my poor rendition of Spanish I do my best to communicate with them. For the most part they are decent people only trying to do better in their lives. If I was living in Mexico I would do just like them and find a way to get to America. Indeed our imigration system is unfair, rewarding those who break the law and enter illegally. As much as the majority entering illegaly are good and decent people, we still need to control our borders. A regulated border is essential to our security. We need to secure the border, then make those who are here illegally go back and apply for immigration in their native land. If we don't do this, and just grant amnesty to those who are already here, it will only encourage the next wave to enter illegally. I have a unique perspective to the immigration issue due to my job. I’ve been in the homes, and provided service for customers, in every neighborhood in So Cal from Beverly Hills to South Central, including every Hispanic community. This may be hard for some to believe but I have a deep affinity for the immigrant, even if illegal. Using my poor rendition of Spanish I do my best to communicate with them. For the most part they are decent people only trying to do better in their lives. If I was living in Mexico I would do just like them and find a way to get to America.

Indeed our imigration system is unfair, rewarding those who break the law and enter illegally. As much as the majority entering illegaly are good and decent people, we still need to control our borders. A regulated border is essential to our security. We need to secure the border, then make those who are here illegally go back and apply for immigration in their native land. If we don’t do this, and just grant amnesty to those who are already here, it will only encourage the next wave to enter illegally.

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]]> By: GRAMPS http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7987 GRAMPS Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:19:39 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-7987 BGH u r getting closer to the bend. Closer than u think BGH u r getting closer to the bend. Closer than u think

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]]> By: GangFang http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7982 GangFang Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:48:13 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-7982 "Our arguments...." Ours vs. Theirs Us vs. Them Right vs. Wrong Why? “Our arguments….”

Ours vs. Theirs
Us vs. Them
Right vs. Wrong

Why?

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]]> By: Berta González-Harper http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7981 Berta González-Harper Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:16:55 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-7981 Gramps: Save me a spot around the bend since you are obviously already there. Gramps: Save me a spot around the bend since you are obviously already there.

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]]> By: GRAMPS http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7977 GRAMPS Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:58:48 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-7977 BGH I seee u r still talking in your sleep. Wake up before ou go completely around the bend. BGH I seee u r still talking in your sleep. Wake up before ou go completely around the bend.

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]]> By: Berta González-Harper http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7976 Berta González-Harper Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:53:07 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-7976 SCVGuy: Jeff has this altruistic view that he is defending the rights of illegals and has a more compassionate solution. Amnesty only encourages more to come. Walls and fences alone will not keep people out without a very strong message that you cannot break our laws and get away with it. Does he realize that coming to the USA illegally puts these people at great risk and peril? They cross deserts, rivers, and oceans, pay exorbitant sums to traffickers and coyotes that frequently rape the females and hold the children for ransom. God only knows what they do to the guys. They finally maybe get here, if they don’t die or are murdered along the way, only to be exploited by unscrupulous business people who pay them sub standard wages if they pay them at all, turn them in to INS in order to avoid paying them, and who don’t give a rats ass about them. When the car or whatever bringing them over breaks down they leave them to die locked in the trunk. They are merchandise to be used and discarded. The worst among the traffickers are people of their own race or ethnic group not the bad “white guys”. I would argue it would be better to enforce our laws and spend some of the money we currently spend on illegals to hire more Americans to speed up the process for obtaining Visa’s for those people who meet all the requirements and want to come here following the laws of our nation to work and be productive members of society. If they are here legally they are entitled to every protection available under the law. They don’t have to fear deportation, can make wage claims to the Labor Commissioner, and have a better shot at applying and being granted citizenship. I say wake up and smell the coffee Jeff and you others. Illegal immigration is bad for everyone. Bringing up the subject and wanting current laws enforced does not make anyone a racist. On the contrary, why aren’t all of you demanding your government tackle this issue? SCVGuy: Jeff has this altruistic view that he is defending the rights of illegals and has a more compassionate solution. Amnesty only encourages more to come. Walls and fences alone will not keep people out without a very strong message that you cannot break our laws and get away with it.
Does he realize that coming to the USA illegally puts these people at great risk and peril? They cross deserts, rivers, and oceans, pay exorbitant sums to traffickers and coyotes that frequently rape the females and hold the children for ransom. God only knows what they do to the guys. They finally maybe get here, if they don’t die or are murdered along the way, only to be exploited by unscrupulous business people who pay them sub standard wages if they pay them at all, turn them in to INS in order to avoid paying them, and who don’t give a rats ass about them. When the car or whatever bringing them over breaks down they leave them to die locked in the trunk. They are merchandise to be used and discarded. The worst among the traffickers are people of their own race or ethnic group not the bad “white guys”.
I would argue it would be better to enforce our laws and spend some of the money we currently spend on illegals to hire more Americans to speed up the process for obtaining Visa’s for those people who meet all the requirements and want to come here following the laws of our nation to work and be productive members of society. If they are here legally they are entitled to every protection available under the law. They don’t have to fear deportation, can make wage claims to the Labor Commissioner, and have a better shot at applying and being granted citizenship.
I say wake up and smell the coffee Jeff and you others. Illegal immigration is bad for everyone. Bringing up the subject and wanting current laws enforced does not make anyone a racist. On the contrary, why aren’t all of you demanding your government tackle this issue?

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]]> By: SCV Guy http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7952 SCV Guy Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:09:13 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-7952 @Jeff: still missing the point I see. You stated: "Be proud of the diversity of our community, our region, our state. Show compassion for those who came here looking for a tiny piece of the freedom and prosperity we enjoy." I do not think Bob Kellar or anyone is arguing this at all. I believe we all embrace the diversity of our country, community and culture. Our arguments are the illegal approach to people coming into our country and getting away with it. You do realize that this is a law and illegal immigration is, well ILLEGAL! By your accounts (and the many others who just don't get this issue) we should just abolish all laws and let people do what they want? @Jeff: still missing the point I see.

You stated:
“Be proud of the diversity of our community, our region, our state. Show compassion for those who came here looking for a tiny piece of the freedom and prosperity we enjoy.”

I do not think Bob Kellar or anyone is arguing this at all. I believe we all embrace the diversity of our country, community and culture. Our arguments are the illegal approach to people coming into our country and getting away with it. You do realize that this is a law and illegal immigration is, well ILLEGAL!

By your accounts (and the many others who just don’t get this issue) we should just abolish all laws and let people do what they want?

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]]> By: Annette http://scvtalk.com/2010/01/25/strange-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7944 Annette Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:54:19 +0000 http://scvtalk.com/?p=1604#comment-7944 Fair enough, ND ;) Fair enough, ND ;)

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