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	<title>Comments on: Congressman McKeon says Bob Kellar should apologize about proud racist comment</title>
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		<title>By: SCV Guy</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2010/02/01/congressman-mckeon-calls-for-bob-kellar-to-apologize-about-proud-racist-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-8889</link>
		<dc:creator>SCV Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully &quot;Bucks&quot; days are numbered. He lost my support when he stopped listening to his constituents, voted for the stimulus and distanced himself from Bob Kellar by playing politics. 

He feels the same way as Mr Kellar does but decided to play politics instead.  The LDS church should be ashamed of him.

Please put &quot;Buck&quot; on the NO INCUMBENT list!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully &#8220;Bucks&#8221; days are numbered. He lost my support when he stopped listening to his constituents, voted for the stimulus and distanced himself from Bob Kellar by playing politics. </p>
<p>He feels the same way as Mr Kellar does but decided to play politics instead.  The LDS church should be ashamed of him.</p>
<p>Please put &#8220;Buck&#8221; on the NO INCUMBENT list!</p>
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		<title>By: navigator</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2010/02/01/congressman-mckeon-calls-for-bob-kellar-to-apologize-about-proud-racist-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-8627</link>
		<dc:creator>navigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jill Klajic would have never retreated into that bubble!&quot;

Jill never had that bubble to retreat into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jill Klajic would have never retreated into that bubble!&#8221;</p>
<p>Jill never had that bubble to retreat into.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2010/02/01/congressman-mckeon-calls-for-bob-kellar-to-apologize-about-proud-racist-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-8626</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time to Clean Out City Hall.
NO VOTES FOR INCUMBENTS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time to Clean Out City Hall.<br />
NO VOTES FOR INCUMBENTS!</p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2010/02/01/congressman-mckeon-calls-for-bob-kellar-to-apologize-about-proud-racist-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-8617</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim;

That prediction accepted! 

Still not on board with your TBB prediction,unless you&#039;ve changed your mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim;</p>
<p>That prediction accepted! </p>
<p>Still not on board with your TBB prediction,unless you&#8217;ve changed your mind!</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Myers</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2010/02/01/congressman-mckeon-calls-for-bob-kellar-to-apologize-about-proud-racist-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-8610</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annette:

As predicted, a befuddled council member steps to a microphone, does not back down, and then draw the crazies on BOTH sides down on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annette:</p>
<p>As predicted, a befuddled council member steps to a microphone, does not back down, and then draw the crazies on BOTH sides down on us.</p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2010/02/01/congressman-mckeon-calls-for-bob-kellar-to-apologize-about-proud-racist-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-8605</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the news again tonight!
Channel 7 @ 11:00 PM
Juan Jose Gutierrez of Full Rights for Immigrants said Bob Kellar must step down and is asking that the Board of Supervisors investigate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the news again tonight!<br />
Channel 7 @ 11:00 PM<br />
Juan Jose Gutierrez of Full Rights for Immigrants said Bob Kellar must step down and is asking that the Board of Supervisors investigate.</p>
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		<title>By: Berta González-Harper</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2010/02/01/congressman-mckeon-calls-for-bob-kellar-to-apologize-about-proud-racist-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-8603</link>
		<dc:creator>Berta González-Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From: Edgar, Deirdre [mailto:Deirdre.Edgar@latimes.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:22 PM
To: berta@thevine.net
Subject: RE: Kellar article

Ms. Gonzalez-Harper, 
 
I’m the Readers’ Representative for the Los Angeles Times, and Ann Simmons shared your e-mail with me regarding the terms she used in her article in yesterday’s paper. She has received a couple of notes expressing similar sentiment, and I’ve received a reader question about the article as well.
 
I’d like to address your point, and the couple of others, in a post on the Readers’ Representative Journal, which is online at latimes.com/readers. Would that be OK with you? And if so, could you let me know what city you live in? 

Thank you,

 
Deirdre Edgar

Readers’ Representative

(BGH said yes and provided information requested)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From: Edgar, Deirdre [mailto:Deirdre.Edgar@latimes.com]<br />
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:22 PM<br />
To: <a href="mailto:berta@thevine.net">berta@thevine.net</a><br />
Subject: RE: Kellar article</p>
<p>Ms. Gonzalez-Harper, </p>
<p>I’m the Readers’ Representative for the Los Angeles Times, and Ann Simmons shared your e-mail with me regarding the terms she used in her article in yesterday’s paper. She has received a couple of notes expressing similar sentiment, and I’ve received a reader question about the article as well.</p>
<p>I’d like to address your point, and the couple of others, in a post on the Readers’ Representative Journal, which is online at latimes.com/readers. Would that be OK with you? And if so, could you let me know what city you live in? </p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Deirdre Edgar</p>
<p>Readers’ Representative</p>
<p>(BGH said yes and provided information requested)</p>
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		<title>By: lvogel</title>
		<link>http://scvtalk.com/2010/02/01/congressman-mckeon-calls-for-bob-kellar-to-apologize-about-proud-racist-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-8597</link>
		<dc:creator>lvogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what was her answer to that question, Berta Gonzalez-harper?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what was her answer to that question, Berta Gonzalez-harper?</p>
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		<title>By: Berta González-Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berta González-Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny but I did not hear this learned gentleman, Jorge Cabrera, once make any distinction between legal immigrants and ILLEGAL immigrants. The numbers he cites are also flawed. He is himself Hispanic but apparently does not understand the difference between race and ethnicity. He speaks of the number of Whites, vs. Latino/Hispanic again making no distinction between race and ethnic background. I would ask him the same question I asked Ann Simmons of the LA Times.
Berta González-Harper says: 
January 28, 2010 at 11:19 am
Hello Ms. Simmons.
I am one of those supporters who broke into tears you reference in your article regarding Councilmember Bob Kellar.
As a point of discussion, you site statistics regarding white residents and then later regarding “Latino” residents. How would you count me using those labels? My race is Caucasian, my ethnic background is Hispanic (not Latino just because the Census Bureau says so). There are many of “us”. Do I count twice, once in each category, or only once and in which category? You are doing what so many others do and mixing your “labels” into one. I would question any numbers using those labels from whatever the source.
Regards,
Berta González-Harper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny but I did not hear this learned gentleman, Jorge Cabrera, once make any distinction between legal immigrants and ILLEGAL immigrants. The numbers he cites are also flawed. He is himself Hispanic but apparently does not understand the difference between race and ethnicity. He speaks of the number of Whites, vs. Latino/Hispanic again making no distinction between race and ethnic background. I would ask him the same question I asked Ann Simmons of the LA Times.<br />
Berta González-Harper says:<br />
January 28, 2010 at 11:19 am<br />
Hello Ms. Simmons.<br />
I am one of those supporters who broke into tears you reference in your article regarding Councilmember Bob Kellar.<br />
As a point of discussion, you site statistics regarding white residents and then later regarding “Latino” residents. How would you count me using those labels? My race is Caucasian, my ethnic background is Hispanic (not Latino just because the Census Bureau says so). There are many of “us”. Do I count twice, once in each category, or only once and in which category? You are doing what so many others do and mixing your “labels” into one. I would question any numbers using those labels from whatever the source.<br />
Regards,<br />
Berta González-Harper</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That pretty much sums it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That pretty much sums it up!</p>
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