Glad to see that you will be moving on to more important things with this campaign, that you won’t be stoking this distraction any further. I’m glad that you’re such a rational and fair minded guy that would never share a stage with deranged racists. Right?

Right?

See you in a few of weeks.

If the end game is deportation / amnesty (I’m talking about both ends), why are we discussing it as a City Council issue?

“opening it up for discussion” ?

So what will the CC NOT discuss whilst we are discussing this Federal issue? Tell me exactly what topic — that the CC can directly influence, mind you — will we bump to another day so we can talk and talk and talk about illegal immigration at City Hall? Will it be development? Transit? Jobs?

I have no expectation for a direct answer – so no let down if you can’t provide one.

@Nickel: You took Spine’s post way out to left field ….

You’ve already closed off the possibility of it being an answer.

Regardless, you’ve successfully proved the point: amnesty can’t be solved by the Santa Clarita City Council.

So I am waiting to hear “the new HOW.”

Like in the halftime show… “Meet the new boss… same as the old boss.”

Thank you for taking the time to reply back to me. While you bring up good points regarding the funds spent for healthcare, school, and welfare; I guess it just doesnt irritate me that much.

What irritates me are others that think the City should spend every dollar possible to fight off illegal immigration. While I acknowledge your comment that some funds are being spent now that benefit illegal immigration, I just don’t see the extra expenditures to justify a small segment of the population that the City estimates is 7,000.

David, I know this is going off on a tangent but to me its exactly the same thing if someone said the City needs to close its borders to keep people who live in the unincorporated areas from using the City’s park and recreational programs or other city facilities.

I really dont see illegal immigration as a local issue. While people are entitled to their own opinion and I’m not trying to change it, I think it would be best for the people who felt strongly about illegal immigration take it to the appropriate forum (i.e., federal government).

Great argument. Throw the baby out with the bathwater. Nice.

Since we weren’t successful in ____ then we shouldn’t do ____.

Since California isn’t successful in public schooling then we should eliminate CA public schooling.
Since we had a Chernobyl disaster, then we should eliminate nuclear power.
Since my computer shuts down too much, I’m going to use a pad and paper.

Your argument ignores the complexities and nuances of HOW something is done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

Ask yourself if the problem was “solved” in 1986.

I understand your position but it’s worth reminding that $1.5 Billion (with a “B”) of our property taxes are being spent directly on school, healthcare, and welfare to pay for illegal immigration; this in LA County alone. RE: your desire to fight crime, talk to a Sherriff about the impact of SoCal gang’s and the roots that many have in illegal immigration. Our city did not approve the recommended gang task force in the last budget and that is becoming a problem in our city.

That said, let me clarify my stance on illegal immigration and hopefully save your vote: I think we should put it on the agenda. 90% of the problem here could be solved if we simply allowed our people to speak to the issue, share ideas, and be heard.

I have not advocated spending money in enforcement but I do personally wonder if there are more low cost ideas to enforce the laws than our sitting council members have discovered. If there is case law on the books, the cost to put them into action may be very cheap. Other than a few hours, what cost is there to any of us in hearing it at a council meeting?

Yes, my position is that we uphold our laws but I agree with you that it is largely a federal issue. But refusing to even hear new ideas on the topic is bad process and that is a VERY pervasive local problem in our city.

Mike: I’ve answered your question again and again. Agendize it and see what’s possible – nothing begets nothing. To say that I am using this as a wedge issue is simply laughable. I went to an endorsement meeting the other night with every other serious challenger in this race – you know what? EVERY question asked of us dealt with illegal immigration! Way off topic and keeping us from the many issues where the incumbents are weak. Not my choice by a long shot.

Request for platform points is duly noted – had a plan to get this out at the beginning of the month and have just been bombarded with 100s of email regarding Kellar and illegal immigration. Stay tuned…