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The Dunamis Group was started by Joe Messina, your Hart School Board elected official (who has now children in our public schools by the way). It was started when (I believe) Cameron Smyth was Mayor and did start off with the pretense that is was the Mayor’s (note apostrophe) Breakfast. The group took a lot of heat for that and has since changes the name.

It WAS started to be a Christian’s Men’s Business group and the breakfast WAS started for Christians, but has expanded to include others – IMHO – to grow the group and make it more popular.

As for KHTS, give ‘em a break. Like this website is always right, LMAO

DamageInc – you are taking our founders quotes way out of context. It wasn’t about “Christianity” – it was about “Faith” and the importance of it with out founders. It was based under the principle that a higher power [above Gov't] was what gave us our inalienable rights and that with that understanding the Gov’t would never have the power to take those away from us.

Almost everyone of the signers of the Declaration and the Constitution were Christian – but they saw the importance of “FREEDOM OF RELIGION” – whether that means Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or atheism.

But in no way did it mean that we only teach the latter in our schools. Which is what has happened.

* Side note on Dunamis – I am a Christian and can’t stand this group – too many hypocrites like Joe Messina, Tyler Shaw, Chris Jacobsen in it – All Christian hypocrites who don’t know the first thing about serving God in their businesses. I am speaking first hand in dealing with all three of these people.

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Not taking sides in the money debate, just providing the facts for consumption.

And it really has nothing to do with whether or not a group who focuses on a single demoninational ideology has our civic leaders in the palms of their hands or not.

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Best dialogue ever. Wish I could bookmark it. Brian has been added to my list of heros.

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If by religion we are to understand sectarian dogmas, in which no two of them agree, then your exclamation on that hypothesis is just, “that this would be the best of worlds if there were no religion in it.”
– Thomas Jefferson, in a reply to John Adams’ letter, quoted by Joseph Lewis in his address “Jefferson the Freethinker,” delivered at a banquet of the Freethinkers’ Society of New York on the evening of April 13th, 1925, at Hotel Belleclaire, 77th Street and Broadway, New York City, in honor of the 182nd anniversary of the birth of Thomas Jefferson.

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Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

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Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

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Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1, 1802

Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

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Say nothing of my religion. It is known to my god and myself alone.
– Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to John Adams, 11 January 1817, in Lester Cappon, ed. The Adams-Jefferson Letters, (1959) p. 506, quoted from Jeremy Koselak, “The Exaltation of a Reasonable Deity: Thomas Jefferson’s Critique of Christianity”

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I trust there is not a young man now living in the United States who will not die a Unitarian.
– Thomas Jefferson, letter to Waterhouse, June 26, 1822

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“I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..”

-Adolph Hitler

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And beliefs in secular junk science, like anthropogenic climate change should be voluntary as well and never legislated say as a “Global Warming Initiative.” Yet it is usually these secular loony ideas that do get laws in support of them and genuinely have a real negative impact in my life, not blue laws and dry counties.

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