Love him or hate him, Frank Ferry has got people talking and thinking with the comments he made above.
For starters, it’s reprehensible for a City Council member to call constituents in this community -our neighbors- “terrorists.” That loaded word isn’t something to be abused, it’s not a term that should ever enter our lexicon unless someone is using violence for political ends. It’s way off base and he should apologize for that.
That said, it’s about time we had this conversation.
There is a tendency among the anti-density folks in this community to extrapolate their hyper-local issues to the rest of this valley, as if a single medical building on McBean is proof that the City is rotten, that the sky is falling, and that the SCV’s best days are behind it, even as things are relatively good elsewhere (and indeed, getting much better in my neighborhood).
They tend to look at a given project and see tall buildings, torn down trees, lots of people, and traffic while others see new job opportunities, fewer trips over the hill, shorter commutes to services and businesses and more local commerce.
They, good Republicans & free marketers (and even Tea Partiers in the case of Bob Kellar) when it comes to state & national issues, want an activist and interventionist local government when it comes to determining what a property owner does with his commercial property.
They act as if they represent a majority of the SCV, when in reality they are but one constituency of many, as proven by the last two City Council elections.
And some of them, not all, but some viciously attack the professional staff at City Hall (they justify this by saying that it is the staff that is in charge of the City Council, not vice-versa).
Lest I be accused of just picking on the anti-density folks, there’s plenty of hypocrisy to go around. Frank Ferry mocks the press even as he implores them to expose Boydston and Gauny and the neighborhood groups, but it was Frank Ferry just a few years ago who wanted the Signal to stop reporting crime statistics. It didn’t reflect well on the SCV to report such things in the paper, he said. Hey Mr. Ferry, either we have solid, responsible and exhaustive journalism or we don’t. You don’t get to tell The Signal they’re asleep on the job in one breath, then say they’re reporting too extensively in another.
To Ferry’s specific point: that development projects are being filibustered & slandered out of existence by these groups before they’ve had a fair shot before the Planning Commission or the City Council, I think he’s right.
He seems to think it’s unfair. I don’t.
Raise your hand if you think developers in Santa Clarita are unfairly put-upon by citizens? Anyone? Didn’t think so.
It’s called democracy Mr. Ferry, and it’s often times messy. And yes, interested participants in democracy may have agendas. I recall you did too before you were elected to the Council, you said no one on the council was representing people like you, you said there weren’t enough parks and things for kids to do (don’t make me dig out the quotes from that food article I posted about last year!)
If the developers are finding it hard to compete with Facebook groups that -overnight- have hundreds of members, they need to step up their game. Like, I don’t know, maybe meet with neighbors earlier in the process. Maybe address their concerns before it makes the front page of the Signal. Maybe the developers need to bribe the neighborhoods they want to develop in, like the oil company bribed the Placerita homeowners decades ago.
Whatever the case, the developers and Ferry shouldn’t feign shock and surprise when neighbors get aroused and angered by a 60 foot tall building they just learned about in the Planning Commission agenda.
Speaking of The Signal, they share some blame too. Occasionally they are brilliant (as they were in today’s piece on Ferry’s comments). But much of the time they’re mediocre. I’d happily trade the occasional brilliant articles away for more consistent, solid journalism that answers who, what, when, where, why and how and talks to as many stakeholders as possible.
It may not be fair to make The Signal arbiter of this old development & growth debate, but they’re all we got since the Daily News and the Times left town. On that point, I agree with Ferry.
Loading ...
City Council is supposed to be for residents to have more input into the process, but now residents are called terrorists if they dare bring their concerns to City Council.
Marsha McLean is so two-faced! She complained at the last Council meeting that she didn’t like residents complaining that City Council doesn’t listen to them, and she said Council does listen and does want to hear from residents. But today in the Signal Marsha is agreeing with Frank! Remember the project on Lyons in Newhall that Marsha opposed? It was a nice little office complex with a multi-use design (that this city encourages) and it included a few apartments. But Marsha said NO – because it was in HER backyard!
Frank is now going to get revenge on this city for trying to give him the heave-ho and coming so close to ousting him. He’s already campaigning for his twin Laurie Ender by damning the residents of this city as terrorists.
“…and in those wretched Countries where a Man cannot call his Tongue his own, he can scarce call any Thing else his own. Whoever would overthrow the Liberty of a Nation, must begin by subduing the Freeness of Speech; a Thing terrible to Publick Traytors…” GREAT WORDS, thanks Silence Dogood. These words need to be read at City Council. SCV’s City Council members need to be reminded that Freedom of Speech is not a terrorist act IN AMERICA!
It is hard to believe that SCV has a City Council that equates Freedom of Speech with acts of terrorism. How low we have sunk as a city. Bring your concerns to SCV’s City Council and get yourself branded as a terrorist and an enemy of the state.
Why would anyone want to annex into a city that has City Council members calling residents terrorists when residents bring their concerns to City Council. Yeah, annex into our city, and then when City Council tries to ruin your neighborhood with some super-sized, totally unsuitable project that will definitely bring down your community’s property values in an already depressed housing market, you’d better SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT IT! Only City Council members have a right to protect their neighborhoods from unsuitable developments, right Marsha, right Frank?
Terrorist is the name that describes the people who killed thousands of innocent Americans on 9/11 with great malice and forethought. To use that term to describe ordinary citizens, who just want to speak to their elected representatives to let them know about something that is negatively impacting their neighborhood is travesty.
Way to state the obvious.
Ferry wasn’t talking about “ordinary citizens” who just want to talk. He was talking about individuals who slander opposing view points to the point where it could be considered libel. It isn’t “irresponsible” to say that someone should or could sue another person for libel if that person has been publicly smeared.
Why do you think Bill Reynolds hide like a cowardly dog behind his Not a Fan of Ferry persona? Beside that fact that he is a big panty waist he didn’t want to get sued for all his bullshit lies and smears.
In the interest of facts and figures would you give us an example of a lie in NAFF’s videos. I’d like to go back and check these out.
Read the posts below. Developers can’t sue the public for complaining about their projects so words like terrorist and libel and slander should never have been introduced. Ferry doing so was irresponsible.
And are we to assume that your real first name is Damage and your last name is Inc?
Ferry is STILL talking about Smiser? Ugh.
I wonder how long a ‘Medical Office Space For Lease’ sign will be up after that particular (Singing Hills and McBean) multi-story MOB is built?
Didn’t someone on this site do a count once on the number of ‘space available’, already in this valley, that can “provide new job opportunities, fewer trips over the hill, shorter commutes to services and businesses and more local commerce.”?
BTW, ‘neighbors’ were invited to a meeting by the developers, prior to the City Council meeting where the project was brought up. People knew about this a while ago. just as there were meetings at HMNMH years ago before it got ‘approved’ and discussed at those meetings.
They didn’t JUST learn about it.
A few weeks ago, residents of the Signing Hills community noticed a black SUV driving around their neighborhood all day. Finally a couple of residents stopped the car and asked what was going on. The driver informed residents that the developer wanted a run-down of how much parking was available in their neighborhood that could be used as “overflow” parking from the proposed medical office building. That neighborhood is in danger of being used by the developer as an overflow parking lot for that medical office building, but residents would now be labeled TERRORISTS if they object to this!
The word terrorist is an ugly word, and it doesn’t mattter one little bit if terrorist is used with other words when accusing people of being one. And Frank, tell us who City Council is supposed to serve! We should be able to go to City Council with ANY concern, at ANY time, and you people should be treating ALL of us with respect. We know, Frank, you and Laurie and Marsha and Laurene owe G&L for all the piles of money they use for you guys for your campaigns. But – when do WE count??? When does that oath you all took to serve SCV residents kick in? Just wondering.
And BTW, Frank, running for office is what DEMOCRACY is all about! Yet here you are, attacking candidates for daring to run against the SCV gods of City Council? You guys need to realize that you are not ENTITLED to those seats for LIFE! How can residents expect fair and honest representation from our city council after the article in today’s Signal. WE CAN’T!
Not only Frank, but our entire City Council owes the residents of this city an apology and this apology needs to be issued by EACH of them at the next City Council meeting. And then their unanimous apology to us residents needs to appear in the Signal.
I heard also scv4me, that a car was driving around the neighborhood across from the hospital (between Orchard and Alegro). The same question was asked, but the person wouldn’t give her any information, only that he was “doing a job for the city”.
When I attended the first meeting at the hospital over 5 years ago (an invitation to the neighbors from Mr. Seaver), I asked about the chance of people parking in our neighborhoods because most do not want to (and WILL NOT) pay for parking when visiting their Dr.
When Norhtridge hospital expanded years ago, the surrounding homes (behind the hospital) had to display ‘residential parking permits’ on their vehicles at all times. If a car did not have that, they would be towed. That was the city’s way of preventing visitors for the hospital from parking in those areas.
If Ferry thinks we’re fighting now, wait and see what happens if cars start parking in our neighborhoods in order to avoid ‘pay-for-parking’ in the MOB/Hospital areas!
When the Council approved the Hospital project, they did not allow pay parking. So parking will remain no charge.
Um, perhaps the ‘hospital’, but nothing is stopping G&L from charging.
Actually, at one of the meetings (I can’t remember which one) Seaver actually said “We’ll have to charge for parking, how else will we pay for the construction”?
Maybe they’ve changed their tune, but not then! And again, G&L can basically do anything they damn well please with the property they own. That would be all that area left of the hosptial…that will have 2 parking structures.
Again, the Council did not approve pay parking for any portion of the project.
The Council has had a long stance for free parking and to my knowledge has never approved any project that allows pay parking.
While pay parking was proposed for the hospital/medical office buildings, the Council did not allow this.
Actually the Council disallowed G&L paid parking but told them to come back after the project was built and they’d review a proposal again at that time.
hmmm…wonder how G&L will be able to recoup their ‘construction’ costs? I mean, besides the astronomical amount it may/will probably cost to lease in that area. And I wonder what doctors will be able to pay for the leasing of offices and parking.
Many MOB’s with parking garages charge the occupants for the necessary parking needed for their service, so…..
The Council has never approved paid parking. This would set a major precedent for other projects in Santa Clarita if they do in the future.
Its actually one I would like to see. Free parking doesnt give any incentive for people to use other modes of transportation and we will be dependent on cars forever.
This city is stuck in the 1950s mentality of planning.
scv4me says:
“A few weeks ago, residents of the Signing Hills community noticed a black SUV driving around their neighborhood all day. Finally a couple of residents stopped the car and asked what was going on. The driver informed residents that the developer wanted a run-down of how much parking was available in their neighborhood that could be used as “overflow” parking from the proposed medical office building.”
That sounds like a made up story. There are parking requirements that need to be met and onstreet parking doesnt count towards those requirements.
From what I heard, the actual square footage of medical office space is about 18,000 square feet. Do you really think its going to generate so much traffic that they’re going to need the whole entire community’s onstreet parking? I highly doubt it.
What you “doubt” is irrelevant. “Sounds like” is an equally irrelevant argument. But for sure, you don’t really KNOW anything.
Really nobody KNOWS anything. I havent seen the plans and I doubt that the people protesting has either.
So until then, I will do the same as residents in the area and make my opinions based on heresay and past experiences.
Personally I’d rather KNOW everything now, rather than later after the concrete has been poured. It’s not like a street that’s been striped wrong; they won’t be able to just ‘fix’ it.
Have the plans been released? Until then, I’ll take everything the protestors are saying with a grain of salt since I’m not sure what they are saying is accurate.
If you don’t know anything and haven’t talked to those residents and don’t even know if they did have a meeting with the developer or the rep, I can’t figure out why you are here with…..nothing whatsoever to add to this subject. You seem to be defending the developer and trashing the residents with, as you freely admit, no knowledge of what is going on, which is quite suspicious. Did you attend any of those neighborhood meetings, talk to the residents, have any idea who met with whom and what was said? I am betting not, but you have a lot to say about a subject you admit you know nothing about. I can’t figure out why you are making yourself look so foolish, commenting when you know nothing, defending and trashing people with no information. And I’ll bet you’ll be back with more of the same nothing, LOL.
my post was to bogibson00.
bogibson00 knows that the council has never ‘approved’ for paid parking in the MOB area, so it sounds as if they have knowledge about the citys actions/approvals..hmmm. Me’s think’n that bogibson00 is some how connected to this subject.
You’re correct Will, the defense is quite strong, but I’m not feel’n ‘trashed’ yet, are you?..:)
I do know what I heard at several meetings, both at the hospital and City Hall, and at one time (at both locations) paid for parking was brought up, but never dismissed by BOTH HMNHM and G&L.
Yes, I remember it being discussed while watching the Council Meeting. If you go to SCOPE’s page they have the development agreeement online and its on page 15 of the PDF document that says they may not charge for parking. It does state that if they want to charge for parking, they will have to file an application to the City.
I’m not connected at all to the hospital. I’m not advocating/defending it. I was just trying to correct you on an earlier post you made.
As with any other person on this blog, I can comment as long as Mr. Wilson allows it on his blog. If you reread my posts, I have not trashed anyone and you are the only person that has actually personally trashed me.
As you point out, I dont know much on the subject except what I read in the paper and I dont have an opinion one way or the other and never advocated building it or not. I’m just pointing out that the residents in the surrounding area don’t seem to have a clear idea either of what is being proposed.
My two cents.
Hmmmm, I think you are too sensitive. Doesn’t appear to be anyone trashing you, but you are quite rude to anyone who doesn’t toe the city line. You are recognized has having nothing relevant to say and that is true, a statement of fact. Your rudeness and lack of knowledge was pointed out and rightly so, and in a snit you accuse posters of trashing you, which is not true.
Please read Will’s post. He said I was trashing people. I was not.
bogibson – This story is true and verified by many neighbors. However, this was not the Singing Hills group neighborhood but the residents across from the hospital who encoutered this vehicle.
The driver informed people that he was hired by the hospital to determine available parking spaces in their neighborhood. The supposition is that they want to put displaced cars there during office tower construction that is now underway.
David,
If that’s the case, I think someone needs to complain to the City. I dont think that the City would stand for it. I know the hospital has a shuttle right now that goes back and forth between the hospital area and mall for the loss of parking spaces.
What?!? and be accused of Terrorism?
Perish the thought!
What is with the Obama logo? What exactly about Ferry’s position is Obama like? The fact that he believes people should be able to develop the land they own? Ferry’s position sounds very Conservative / Republican / Libertarian to me.
Bill Reynolds is a manipulative drama queen, running around telling his HOA what the rest of his neighborhood can and cannot do. Then taking it a step further and telling what people do with their own land. He just can’t stand a political leader who speaks his mind can he? 2 years of obsession… Your PATHETIC!
Bill Reynold is the biggest loudest RINO in the valley.
Yes, people should be able to develop the land they own. But new projects shouldn’t be allowed to hurt the property of other property owners and new projects don’t have a right to cause nearby property values to decline because the project is unsuitable for the area. EXISTING property owners have rights, too. Just because existing property owners are already there, that doesn’t mean they should be expected to forfeit their own proprty rights.
It isn’t their property therefore they don’t have the right to regulate it. You can argue that it effects your property but that is the same argument all regulation runs under.
Conservatives biggest beefs with Democrats / Obama is they say they want to regulate business and every aspect of our life. How can you slap an Obama logo on a guy that is fighting for the liberties of land owners? It is Bill Reynold who is the secret socialist…
Land Use Rule in the General Plan: New development shall be compatible to existing neighborhoods.
Our city says so, it’s their own General Plan rule.
The area is zoned commercial with an existing commercial use on the property. Seems compatible to me.
“It isn’t their property therefore they don’t have the right to regulate it. “
Oh, so if I own land next to your home, you can’t stop me from running a halfway house for (maybe) recovering drug dealing child molesters?
Hey, you are a terrorist if you try to stop my project.
Nate, all this outrage about Not A Ferry Fan, but nothing to say about the despicable comments from Frank Ferry? No outrage from you about the despicable, insulting comments from a Councilman that is an actual elected representative of the people? So what about Not A Ferry Fan, who cares, he doesn’t represent us as an elected representative, he’s just a private citizen expressing his freedom of speech right as an American. But the City Councilman that does represent us has behaved in a hugely disgusting manner towards us, called those who take the time to get involved with their community, “terrorists,” and coming from an elected representative, this is some pretty scary stuff.
Wasn’t it Frank who used the kids of this city for his “Mayor Dude” campaign when he encouraged kids to get involved with our city’s govenmental processes? What a joke. Get involved, but don’t you ever complain about anything or your name will be added to the Frank Ferry anti-SCV terrorist list.
Why should I be outraged? There is enough manufactured, insincere outrage to go around. The guy should be able to say what is on his mind, title of the video is Freedom of Speech after all. Keller shouldn’t be the only guy on the council that should be free to speak his mind.
Wasn’t it Not a Fan of Ferry that depicted city officials as nazis’? Here is a reminder of the type of crap Bill Reynolds throws out
http://www.youtube.com/user/NotaFerryFan#p/u/9/P3CfGTlp37c
When a person claims they have principles they should have them even when it is difficult and not convenient.
Sorry, Ferry is an elected representative of the residents of this city and threatening residents and the juvenile name-calling proves he is unfit for the position he holds. Anyone who would defend Frank Ferry is either Frank Ferry or another city employee or a developer or a lobbyist. No ETHICAL person would defend comments like that from an elected representative. Even the local Repubs wouldn’t support Ferry, he’s that unfit for that position.
Did you say that about the Proud Racist comment?
The same people that are so outraged by this comment were defending Keller a few month ago.
Umm, not everyone Nate…:)
There are exceptions I am sure, I realize some people get offended easily. One blanket statement deserves another.
Ferry could have played it safe and not rock the boat. I respect a guy who speaks his opinion. People act like Ferry’s position is so much different then the other council members. They put their cross hairs on him because he is an easy target.
People complain about our “PC” world and why our politicians dance around issues. They say they want an honest politician that speaks “frankly” but what they mean is they want a politician who speaks frankly AND THAT THEY AGREE WITH.
Ferry is an idiot.
your no Einstein and neither is Bill Reynolds.
Both resort to name calling from behind a keyboard. Ferry has the rocks to put himself out there.
Ferry has rocks, without a doubt. Problem is that he frequently reminds us that this rocks are not between his legs.
Says the guy behind his computer.
Frank Ferry has a JOB that
It is Frank Ferry’s JOB to listen to what residents have to say. If he can’t deal with that part of his job he should resign.
You assume he isn’t listen to “the people” because he isn’t listening to you. This isn’t a new issue and all the incumbnants position is well documented. All 3 incumbnants were re-elected so seems like “the people” have spoken and Ferry is listening.
Send Bill your address, he will gladly meet you face to face.
Who would be foolish enough to get their address to a terrorist?
Now we are throwing the word terroist around like we throw around the word racist.
Both words seem to have lost the true meaning. Kind of like the word Ferry!
Just like the word Communist & Socialist.
Cash has no sense of humor. But seriously Bill Reynolds cowardly attacked me personally on many occasions. He is weak.
Cash has a sense of humor. When BR “attacked” you did he do physical damage, or are you using the word “attacked’ for affect! I believe that if BR “attacked” you, you would still be in pain.
Now you have me laughing.
Ditto!
I thought this was a nice read, Mr. J-to-the-Wilson.
The thing I find the most annoying about the Frank speech is how he is so patronizing and presumptuous. He tells Laura (the woman who spoke out against the big office building) that she’s basically been bamboozled into believing and spreading lies created by Boydston or Gauny. He calls her “smart”, but apprently not smart enough to know she’s been tricked–poor, helpless Laura!
I don’t agree on the parallels between “proud racist” and “developmental terrorist.” The former was applied to the speaker himself, was a response to name calling, and was preceded by an explanation. The latter was something Ferry decided to use as a label against people he doesn’t like and wasn’t tempered by context.
If Ferry had come up with a term that wasn’t so ungainly, goofy, and laughable, it might be worth apologizing. As it stands, I think he just comes off sounding silly, which is good enough.
Agree on the stirring people up part.
Regarding another potential parallel: Do you think anyone is going to give a Kellaresque statement along the lines of “If opposing a sixty-foot building in my backyard makes me a developmental terrorist, then I’m a proud developmental terrorist.”?
[I hope that by typing that I haven't put SCVTalk on some terrorist watchlist.]
Reading the TMS articles this morning only brought one thing to my mind. Ferry is telling us that he will approve any developer that asks.
In the Signal’s article this morning they mentioned that any approval by the Planning Commission can be appealed to the City Council. I do believe, however, that the cost of that appeal wasn’t mentioned.
Hundreds, last time I checked, but that was a decade ago.
Ferry only tells one side of the story. The Signal article fails to mention that the Chamber of Commerce, with member that include local developers, etc., have direct access to the City Council. Many local events which create such opportunity, notwithstanding, the Chamber has a standing monthly meeting with city staff (up to two council members may attend)to review city agenda, etc. Perhaps the city should consider creating the same kind of opportunity for the taxpayers. The issue is access Ferry, you clown!
Please tell where and when these monthly meetings happen? I’m not aware of them and would like to attend.
City Council Agenda Review
Apr. 10, 2009
Chamber representatives meet and review the City Council agenda prior to Tuesday’s council meeting. The group discusses all agenda items relative to business. If the group feels that a stance should be made on behalf of business at the council meeting, a representative will be present. The group meets from 8:00 am to 9:30 am at City Hall, 23920 Valencia Blvd., 3rd Floor Conference Rm., Santa Clarita, CA 91355.
How many times have important issues come up before the council and they have already made up their minds – will bet the office building has already been decided on by the coucil, even before the commission hears the nays and yays about it.
The people of Santa Clarita deserve what they get – they choose not to vote and we get stuck with these same people.
Would bet if the west side gets annexed these people will all be gone and the west side will prevail.
Councilmember Ferry apparently needs to be updated on California’s anti-Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation (anti-SLAPP) statute – otherwise he would not be so quick to tell folks to sue, ahem, “developmental terrorists.” Democracy is messy, and even though it can be annoying to listen to the same sky-is-falling rant meeting after meeting, SOMETIMES the so-called nimbies have valid and correct points that should not be ignored. For anyone who’s interested, this organization http://www.casp.net/index.html offers lots of anti-SLAPP information.
Thanks for the information Christine! You’d think Mr. Ferry, being a lawyer and all, would be familiar with this.
Good information to have on hand, indeed!
Since when is Ferry a lawyer? Is this true?
Okay, maybe he’s not a lawyer, but he did get a Bachelors Degree in Law and a Juris Doctrate.
Course it doesn’t mean he actually practiced or has even kept up with it, but he should be savy enough to look this kind of stuff up on google…or maybe not.
Either way, he holds a degree and before he tells the developers to sue the ‘complainers’, he should really find out what Christine posted; you know, just in case the complainers can then have a stronger case against not only the developers, but the person that told them to sue them.
Well, it’s been an interesting discussion and I’m sure one that will not go away anytime soon, but this old resident needs to move on for tonight…Deadliest Catch and a beer are waiting for me!
Yes, Ferry is an attorney but immediately let his Bar membership go inactive in 1997:
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=170425
This is what makes his suggestions that developers sue for libel and slander so funny/heartbreaking. Not sure what they’re teaching at the Glendale School of Law.
One could think that the classes in civil procedure, constitutional law, tort, and perhaps bar review classes might have informed Ferry of the 1992 anti-SLAPP statute – but such classes typically focus on federal and “common,” or “case law” derived from interpretation of statutory law over time, not state statutes. Consequently, Ferry might not have been directly taught about anti-SLAPP statutes. However, all this aside, it’s highly irresponsible for a public official to tell the development & business community to sue people who are exercising their free speech rights, particularly in a designated public forum, about an issue of public concern.
Not having watched the CC meeting on TV, did Carl Newton have anything to say publicly after Ferry’s comment? I wonder if later on Ferry enjoyed a trip to the proverbial woodshed. Or not.
Last time I heard, the anti-SLAPP laws are not tested on the Bar Exam. Too bad. Frank is actually the second passed-the-bar-man in SCV who didn’t know about them.
Where did you go to college again Dave?
Oh SNAP!
I didn’t learn about anti-SLAPP lawsuits in school, Tim. I learned about them after getting involved with city and development issues. The same place Ferry and every other council member learned about them.
And Christine is correct: highly irresponsible.
son, that takes balls! Mr. 12.5th grade rips on Ferry’s law school.
That wasn’t the question. You wondered what they teach in the Glendale School of (non-ABA accredited) Law. I just wanted to know what they taught in the institutions of higher learning you attended.
Oh boy, here come the trolls. Ferry is an attorney, Gauny never claimed to be! A 12.5 grade education would be six years ahead of what we have in schoolyard bully Frank Ferry.
As for you Meyers, I learned a lot in the UCLA graduate program I attended. But the most important thing I ever learned was to ignore assholes like you. Gauny should do likewise and not give you the time of day.
You apparently didn’ t learn that lesson.
You also have no idea what a troll is.
I learned how to spell my last name in kindergarten! But Dave Gauny can’t ignore me because he cannot get his head around that there are people who have not run out and purchased kneepads before they run into his august presence.
Thank you for this info. Frank and a couple of others here (who probably are connected to the city in some way, that is so obvious) fail to recognize that this IS a Democracy and that failure to honor Democrcy is the reason Frank came within a hair of losing his seat, and why both Republican organizations refused to support him. Seems those closest to Frank know he is an out of control idiot.
Doesn’t seem to apply here. Councilmember Ferry was telling the developers to sue those who are making libel statements. Its a 2-way street folks. As much as you have rights, so do developers.
You are still getting your time to speak at meetings but you cant make libel statements against others.
Perhaps the Signal will seek the view of those that go before the council and challenge. Sure it will, when Ferry can fly! The Signal does not survive without growth and besides, the Signal is not a newspaper with true reporting, it is a joke.
If people are serious about finding out what many of the residents of the Singing Hills neighborhood are concerned about, check out their posts and discussions on the Facebook page called ‘OUR Valley OUR Vision’. We will be posting all of our video comments that were made in front of the City Council meetings sometime soon.
You will find the residents gave their three minute speeches in a respectful manner, and were totally undeserving of Councilmember Ferry’s rant. In fact, Ferry was absent from the Public Participation portion of the 5/11 Council meeting, where the vast majority of the comments were made.
Ferry’s charge of terrorism misses the mark when it comes to describing these good and decent people of Santa Clarita. If only The Signal had really done its job in describing Ferry’s previous outbursts and irrational behavior, I doubt that he would be representing the people of Santa Clarita today.
Two local stories running today.
One about Ferry claiming a democratic process of speaking to oppose a project is “terrorism.”
The other grieving for a Marine, the local high school grad from Stevenson Ranch, who died in Afghanistan fighting for our freedoms.
Ferry should apologize for demeaning the TRUE sacrifice of those fighting TRUE terrorism.
That’s right Spiney, and check the Signal’s political cartoon today!! The stinkin’ Signal might as well have reported that our brave Marine died for nothing!? I have never been more disgusted with the Signal.
Hey Not a Fan of Ferry where you been? Working on another oscar award winning video?
To calrify my comment: I left out “see the Signal’s Cartoon” (06.01.10).
Oops… too much coffee this morning.
}
Q to Hon. Buck McKeon: In light of the continuing, inappropriate, insulting and demeaning comments that Frank Ferry routinely makes from the dais to insult, misportray and slander citizens of the City who are seeking to address their concerns to the City Council — do you now withdraw your endorsement of Frank Ferry? Do you continue to endorse his antics and insults now and in the future??
Q to the Honorable Frank Ferry: In light of the fact that you are an educator, an attorney, and an elected official sworn to uphold the Constitution — why do you feel that frequent outbursts and stream of consciousness type insults and slanders of the public is in order from the City Council dais? Will you continue with this behavior in the future? Under the penalty of perjury, did you have any knowledge that G & L Realty and their front PAC, including your former campaign manager, was going to send out endorsement mailers endorsing you, McLean and Weste?
Stupid.
See David Gauny post twice makes me wonder where TimBen was on all this.
Ridiculous on his claim on the hospital overparking into the neighborhood. Have you seen the shuttle to take employees off site. While they build the parking structure to solve the parking problem TimBen complains about and we all know needs to be done. And by the way, the new ICU opened today. Thank you HMNMH! In spite of David and his friends law suit, which they lost, and now appeal, the Hospital continues to improve and expand.
David says he supports the hospital, but how much has he given? He was able to give $15k to his council race. Why not give it to the Hospital?
If David really wants to be successful in 2012 he needs to stop being the second last angry man (after Bob Kellar)
You know, there is a big difference between there being a group of people against the overbuilding, and another group who doesn’t care about it one way or the other, and further still, the group who wants to build it..
Love Santa Clarita, what is the closest major intersection to where you live. Just curious….