- At least 200 people (according to one report) showed up at last night’s immigration education meeting to hear about illegal immigration from an academic, the LASD and the city. ICE was a no-show, however. Laurie Ender wins innapropriate metaphor of the month with her description of the problem: “Councilwoman Laurie Ender said the illegal immigration issue was analogous to “ants in the sugar bowl” in that the ants will keep coming as long as they can, until there’s a lid on the sugar bowl. It’s the ants’ nature, she said, because inside the sugar bowl, life is sweet. And the ants know that.” WTF? SIGNAL, ROGER GITLIN EMAIL
- The West Ranch Beacon reports that Councilmember Frank Ferry directly addressed the cost of creating a Santa Clarita police force at last night’s immigration meeting WRB
- A Valencia woman arrested last December on wire fraud charges has been convicted and sentenced to eight years of prison. Pamela Terry, 40, told business investors she was an underwriter with the “Federal Reserve Bank” and conned nearly $3.8 million from them when they came to her for business loans. She used the money she conned from people “to fund the recording career of her daughter, who is professionally known as Yota” according to the DAILY NEWS
- Dog found safe after six days in the wilds of Santa Clarita. SIGNAL
- Outgoing Hart Supe Jaime Castellanos will receive 7 years of health care worth $10,000 per for year for him and his wife, and that has the Hart teacher’s union -concerned about layoffs and furlough days- hopping mad. Conservative Board Member Paul Strickland defends the
bailout ofgolden parachute for Castellanos, saying “We thought that was the right thing to do because he’s close to the age of 65.” Yo, where the Tea Party at? SIGNAL - From the Signs of the Apocalypse File: California legislature “flirts with” license plate advertising technology. LA TIMES
- Canyon Country Advisory Committee chair Al Ferdman is furious that the City has informed him that the CCAC will not be able to meet at the City’s activities center after September 2010. He says the City told him that the CCAC will either need to pay regular fees for use of the room or move to another location. He plans a protest at the next City Council meeting.
- Metrolink fees will increase 6% starting this week SIGNAL
- Governor Schwarzenegger asks California motorists to slow down and watch the way they drive after five CHP officers have been killed in the line of duty in recent days. Three of the officers were killed while standing on the side of the freeway LA TIMES
- Jacksonville Jaguar fans build website to fight the Jaguars possibly moving to Los Angeles. “Nothing spells loser better than the California Economy, the Laker fans rioting in the streets,” the site says. ouch. LA OBSERVED
- Looks like Ronald Reagan Day, February 6, will become a reality. Even Democrats are voting for it, noting that Reagan raised taxes as Governor of CA LA TIMES
- Buck McKeon happy with Supreme Court decision on Second Amendment application to state and local laws WRB
- Op/Ed writer Diana Shaw systematically disassembles Paul Strickland’s argument about the plastic bag ban SIGNAL. Speaking of that, both George Runner and Tony Strickland voted no on the plastic bag ban VECO STAR
- Tea Party SCV blog now posting racial jokes TEA PARTY SCV
- And last but not least, Bob Kellar has been picked up by ICE and is facing deportation to his hometown of Guadalajara, Mexico. ICE says Kellar’s real name is “Roberto Cuellar.” SCV UNINCORPORATED
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On the TeaParty Joke:
Well it was just a matter of time. Racists can only hold it together so long before their handlers have to keep them from going out in public.
Yep, thought that lack of spelling knowledge was the only thing funny about it.
The hate speech just keeps getting ratcheted up doesn’t it?
This “joke”, along with a recent remark from a (now former) Facebook acquaintance Tea Party supporter’s referral to Obama as “Buckwheat”, tells me all I need to know about the Tea Party’s true colors. Hey, maybe they’ll bring back “coon songs” made popular by racist a-holes in the late 19th century.
These are the things that give a movement a total lack of any credibility whatsoever.
Sad….
Of course the ‘blogger’ was only using his first amendment right…(roll eyes), and this is not the ‘views’ of most tea party members, and I’m sure that the SCV Tea Party (organization) is doing everything possible to weed out this sort of racist attitude…(again, roll eyes).
Ender’s used an ‘ANT’ analogy and this blogger used a ‘DOG’ analogy. I don’t see much difference except Ender didn’t incorporate hers into a joke.
Tiny Tim, still tip toeing through the tulips…
Of course he did. Here is Bill Reynolds on SCVtalk on October 31, 2008:
“Golly VH, I just cannot refuse Santana’s request for another joke:
A little girl wrote to Sarah Palin and asked;
‘How did the human race start?’
Sarah Palin answered, ‘God made Adam and Eve;
They had children; and so was all mankind made.’
Two days later the girl wrote to Michelle Obama
and asked the same question.
Michelle Obama answered,
‘Many years ago there were monkeys from
which the human race evolved.’
The confused girl went to her father and said,
‘Dad, how is it possible that Sarah Palin told me
the Human race was created by God,
And Michelle Obama said they evolved from monkeys.’
The father answered, ‘Well, Dear, it is very simple,
Sarah Palin told you about her ancestors
and Michelle Obama told you about hers.’”
Oh Jeff… er, Mike… you are just so clever going way back, deep into your archives. Thanks for the laugh… again. Ha!
How ironic that I just watched a documentary yesterday where holocaust survivors remarked that the SS officers joked and laughed as they shoved Jews into the gas chambers.
It’s unfortunate that a movement which has a few potentially valid ideals (IE Transparency in government and accountability to the nation’s taxpayers) has to be hijacked by those who think they are right to the detriment of all else; throwing out the open-minded consciousness of human struggle that most of our society has been blessed to understand only recently. These narrow-minded true colors and the allowance of pervasive negative stereotyping destroy any credibility for what ideals they do embrace that might effect a positive change.
Treading on thin f—ing ice, Bill.
Really? How so, FungGung?
“Lukewarm acceptance is more bewildering than outright rejection.” MLK
You truly are a disgusting “human being” aren’t you Bill.
He hates kids, he hates minorities, he hates the planet (have you seen his fake Hummer?). Real charmer, that guy.
Hey Hart District — there’s a little thing called COBRA which is what all of us “small people” have to use to cover healthcare when we’re out of work. Tell Jaime to pay for COBRA or do what the rest of America does — get a job at Walmart!
RM-We are the simple people who do not understand that it is cheaper for the district to pay the health insurance for 7 years rather than the $150,0000 PARS that is due Mr Castellanos.Thank you Jaime for being so understanding in these tough times and letting us off the hook.
Now let’s all get back to work to pay for this.
Petz is correct. Mr. Castellanos took took a 67% haircut on what he was entitled to under his contract by taking the healthcare in lieu of some other contractually mandated payments. Why Paul Strickland did not point this out makes me wonder if he wants to continue to add his name to the pantheon of stupid comments.
Well that does change things a bit. Someone better clear this up with the Signal before the avalanche of LTEs hit.
I hope he got his tax hike exemption card! (I just got mine)
http://www.atr.org/obama-tax-hike-exemption-card-a5140
FYI, it was local democratic activist Carole Lutness who first used the ant/sugar analogy at City Council. I’m not saying that makes it OK for Lauie Ender to say it, but I think it was Carole’s language that Ender (sub-)consciously adopted; she didn’t pull the comparison out of thin air. Lutness posted her full comments from this past February at laprogressive.com:
“But Bob [Kellar], you remind me of the old lady who came into her kitchen to find a swarm of invading ants. Furiously, she stomped on every one of them. The next morning there were even more and the next even more. Frustrated she tried everything – plugging up the holes, putting out traps, spraying. But still they came. Then one day her visiting granddaughter came into the kitchen and said, ‘Grandma, I think they keep coming because you have sugar on the table.’
Bob, you are looking the wrong way. You need to look at who is putting the sugar on the table. The primary reason people risk their lives to come here is to work…”
I’m with you, Jeff, in thinking the ant-human analogy is offensive, but I’m guessing that Carole and Laurie (both of whom might be said to support “humane immigration enforcement/reform”) don’t think it is offensive, for whatever reason.
Political correctness is taken a might too far and are liberals so uptight that they don’t possess a sense of humor?
It’s Conservatives are comedically challenged. Case in point, junk like that passes for a joke. How many great right-wing comedians are out there. Can you name three?
Name three great left-wing comedians…
Still waiting…. snooze…..
George Carlin, Chris Rock, Louis CK
Lewis Black, Jon Stewart, David Cross
Name three right-wing comedians not on the blue collar comedy tour…
Ron White (the funniest guy on the planet)-Dennis Miller-Marc Ryan- Norm MacDonald- Larry the cable guy. Should I go on?
I’ll give you three, maybe three and a half.
You list is certainly over if you mentioned Larry the Cable Guy. But go on, by all means.
I’m not conceding that Ron White is the funniest guy, not even close, but he’s always the funniest on the Blue Collar stage. More than the other three combined.
Have seen him twice in the last year and he is amazing. Saw Norm at the irvine improve 3 weeks ago and was very disappointed in his act. Did have a nice conversation with him after the show. He was telling me about his “lightning bet” days
Norm is a very funny guy, one of my favorites. Word is that he doesn’t work on his act much. Comedians joke that he has a hard time functioning, like super disorganized or something.
HAHA I should have read down further! He really went with Red Neck humor! HAHAHA Not helping his case!
That demeaning, racist piece of sh*t excuse for a joke had nothing to do with satire or parody and was straight up representative of the obvious overall narrow-minded mentality that certain Tea Party representatives and followers possess. It demonstrates that the SCV Tea Party obviously embraces that kind of thinking as it has allowed the post to remain without any other commentary to the contrary. Let freedom of speech ring, and ask not for whom the bell tolls when your movement falls apart over crap like this.
YoWG… there you go speaking in tongues again.
I understood him perfectly, must be a reading comprehension issue on your part Little Billy Reynolds. Run along now, the big people are talking sensibly.
Talking sensibly? Only in your dreams, Not Jeff.
Nope, in your nightmares Little Billy, a nightmare where common sense and decency trump bigotry and hatred, your nightmare is Martin Luther King’s dream.
It’s sad that Ender has to use remarks from others in order to have something to say.
There was a concerning amount of mob mentality within the group. This was supposed to be an education session, but I was disappointed to see it turn out to be more of a town hall rallying against the undocumented.
Bob Kellar said, “Look at the paper. It’s says ‘Immigration Education.’ These are illegals! I don’t need an education!” — only to get applause from the already whipped up crowd.
It’s sad to know that while undocumented immigration is not a pressing issue in our community, life is likely to become more unpleasant for those out-of-status immigrants who reside here, with “Non-sanctuary status” and a day laborer ordinance being pursued by the City.
“Undocumented”!? Yeah, why call it for what it is… “ILLEGAL”!
Love it John B.
PWN’D!
Great response John, but then again Little Billy Reynolds only acknowledges crime when it’s committed by either someone with brown skin or a teenage swimmer… or pretty much anyone that’s not him.
OWNED!
This was a pleasant surprise. Maybe we do have enough compassion for human dignity to go around…
SNAP!!!!!!!
Stepped on a tulip, Tiny Tim?
That’s the best response you have Little Billy Reynolds? Man this diminutive name calling stuff is fun, I see why you get so caught up in it rather than giving a coherent response to valid concerns and questions.
Ain’t it though, Little Not Jeff… especially when it’s so accurately descriptive.
You mean accurate like Little Billy Reynolds? Little mindset, immaturity, temper tantrums… yep fits you to a tee.
The thing I really like about Master Blooger’s Blog, it’s like a magnet to every SCV radical left wing nut bag and it’s so easy to get you little girlie men all riled up. Like shootin’ fish in barrel. Since you stinkin’ libs have completely wrecked our economy, I have no other means of easy entertainment so welcome to me. Ha-ha!
The funny thing is you have me pegged completely wrong, not even close to being left wing or liberal, but I have common sense, something you are sorely lacking. You give anybody leaning even slightly right of center a really bad name, you and the moronic tea party.
That isn’t how it works today. You are either extreme Right wing or a flaming liberal. There is no middle ground.
Keep shootin’ blanks little bitty Billy Reynolds.
case and point – Bill the liberal entitlist is here…
I love Eddie Izzard, but he’s a Brit, so does that count as left leaning?
Also, Steve Carrell, gosh, I don’t really care about which way my comedians “leans” politically or even if it’s boxers or briefs… just bring on the funny.
Racial jokes are beyond lame.
Okay, here are three really funny radical left wing comedians and they are President B. Hussein’s top favorites: Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan and Father Phleger.
I love how Bill would try to peg himself as a patriot yet he attacks leader of the country he claims to love.
Isn’t everything going just lovely in O’Land? Out of control debt, huge unemployment, massive oil disaster, spriraling stock market, lousy housing market, lousy managed Afghan War (which as supposed to be the good war), no Gitmo closure as promised. Please, Not Dame Genie, give us some details on Omama’s good work!
Little Billy,
It is the United States of America, if you don’t like it you get out. Oh and our problems were created by both sides.
8 Trillion of the 13 Trillion happened under Republican Administrations. So don’t even try…
The Oil Disaster was caused by off shore drilling something the Republicans advocated in 2008. Remember, Drill Baby Drill? So don’t even try there either! Now Republican expect taxpayers to once again foot the bill for this! Proving once again the teabaggers have selective outrage.
After 8 years of “patriotic” liberals absolutely hammering George W. Bush at every turn – you know Damageinc, the leader of the country that liberals claim they love – I have to assume that your comment is to be taken as a yuck. BTW, Obama deserves every bit of criticism coming his way with regard to his relationship with Jeremiah Wright.
There is a different between hammering a guy on policies, Bill O said during the Bush years, he (“W”) is the president (which I voted for BTW) and he people should respect that. It seems to be Patriotic to disrespect the President of the United States. People even praying he is assassinated! Show me where liberals every advocated and hoped and even wore T-shirts and held up signs hoping for his death? This isn’t Patriotic, it is the same thing that Al Queda and our other enemies would say.
—->
First Jeremiah Wright was 2 years ago… get over it. Teabaggers is Arizona had a preacher who from the Pulpit said he wanted Obama to die like a slug, speak at one of their rallies? They applauded him and held him up like a hero. Is that ok?
Second Obama like most Presidents gives lip service to religion as he should. I personally hope he wasn’t spending much time in church to hear any of the crazy religious rheotoric that Wright or any other preacher would spout of.
I detest ALL extremism.
I detest all forms of extremism as well, something we apparently have in common. Any one threatening the life of any American president should be delt with severely.
You said;
” Show me where liberals every advocated and hoped and even wore T-shirts and held up signs hoping for his (W’s) death?
Click here and scroll down:http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
I certainly do not dwell on the “Jeremiah Wright” subject. Not in the least. I was merely commenting on it as it was mentioned in a previous thread. But the notion that I should simply “get over” something because it’s 2 years old is weak at best.
Sorry, try this:
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
Wow! The one was an out and out threat! I hope they were arrested.
But isn’t the Get over what Republicans are saying about the damage caused by BUSH?
The entire time W was in office, “liberals” were called unpatriotic for questioning any of his policy decisions because he was a wartime president. However it’s perfectly acceptable to attack the current president on policies, war or not, because he’s a crazy socialist Kenyan. There’s a good use for your name – WTF??
TRUE! Obama is a war time president. Anyone who criticizes him must be unpatriotic!
Shoe is on the other foot.
To be accurate, Obama is not a “socialist”. Many of his policies and ideals are socialist-leaning, however. The tone and tenor of many on the far left during the Bush years was shameful. I can give you many examples, if you wish. You can question a presidents policies – go for it. But anytime you accuse a sitting president of setting up an attack on his own country, blowing up the world trade center or intentionally lying our way way into a war goes far beyond simply “questioning any of his policies”.
Before you think I’m just another “W” fan, I’m far from it. He screwed up the prosecution of the Iraq war big time.
BTW, anyone who refers to Obama as a “Kenyan” is crazy.
Meanwhile, I will continue to support Obama when it’s called for (ie using drones to kill as many bad guys as possible) and call into his question (attack him – as you would say) on his socialist-leaning policies.
I’ll agree with both of those. I think the “truthers” are just as nuts as the “birthers”. Political beliefs are a big wheel, not a straight line, and the more extreme you get at one end or the other, the more you start to look like those you detest. For a good example, look at the extremist progressive protestors in Toronto at G20. Terrorists aren’t just religious extremists – they’re anyone who uses violence and fear to push their views.
I’ve got no problem questioning the president – this one, or any other, if you disagree with what they’re doing. I never saw the justification for invading Iraq, and had no problem making that clear – and got called a traitor for that opinion more than once. Now, many of the ones who considered me a traitor think it’s perfectly acceptable to do the same with our current president, and don’t see the irony. That’s where I get irritated.
The fact that you, WTF, respond so rationally means that you’re certainly not the problem. Bill Reynolds and his ilk certainly are, however.
Reading Bill’s threads, one could conclude that he is a far right-wing, bomb-throwing nut job. I consider myself fairly conservative, so when I read Bill’s post’s (a self-described “conservative”) I get more pissed than I do when I read it from a left wing wack-o……for what it’s worth.
Swap right for left, and I know the feeling.
Man I agree with this sentiment WTF, I am a very moderate conservative and it embarrasses the hell out of me that Bill Reynolds and his kind are what gets painted as the poster children for conservative when they are just right wing heartless wack jobs.
I think that extremists on both the far left and far right wind up looking like mirror images of each other and those of us close to the middle are left scratching our heads when they accuse the other side of the same tactics they recently employed.
Sad.
“intentionally lying our way way into a war goes far beyond simply “questioning any of his policies”. “
Sorry, but W’s WMD claims have been shown to be a fact, not a false attack.
How to post like Bill Reynolds.
1. Drive a Hummer
2. Put Jane Fonda bump sticker on it.
3. Form a death grip on the idea that buying land some how makes one entitled to a view and magically gives you a say on what others can do with their own property.
4. Hate kids.
5. Put Little or Tiny in front on of someone’s user handle
6. When you making a poor attempt at sarcasm end with “NOT” just so everyone gets you are being sarcastic.
7. End every post with HA! like you have actually said something intelligent.
Did I miss anything?
Dame Genie, I own you. Ha!
Do you feel that only left wing liberals find racial jokes distasteful and completely unacceptable, Bill Reynolds?
When one laughs at a joke that is intentionally aimed at a specific race (or group) as an insult, or to denigrate another due to their ethnicity, it keeps racism alive and accepted.
I know many conservative people that will not laugh at tasteless, hate-filled jokes directed towards others.
IVogel, have you ever noticed that that people of a certain race seem overly racist in their comments and beliefs… I’m speaking of people such as Al Sharpton, Tha RevRund Jcksun, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, etc.?
LITTLE Billy only likes Racism that comes from people he likes! HA!
Bill face it you need scvtalk, you would be lost without it.
This is absolutely true, Dame Genie! I love stomping on America hating liberals and this site is a magnet to you losers. Ha!
Well let me know when you stomp one… because you keep getting your panty wearing ass handed to you. Just like you would get your ass handed to you at a conference of real War Heros like anyone of my uncles.
Btw let me know if you ever want to hold some real military decorations, I can have my uncle bring them with him next time he comes to visit. Be sure to bring your “liberal” purple hearts it will be good for a laugh.
You just got OWNED again chode.
Naturally Dame Genie, you have to bring someone else’s military decorations because you have none of your own. I’m not a war hero, but at least I earned the CIB and PH. All you have done is blame America… Ha!
I know you aren’t a war hero. You didn’t volunteer now did you.
Bill, You have no idea what my political views are… Just because I am not a Right Wing Extremist idiot like you doesn’t make me a Left Wing Extremist Idiot either. There are other options…
I was drafted though I could have easily joined the Navy to avoid comat like Hanoi John F’n Kerry, but I chose to go with the Army as my father did in WWII. I proudly served my country, which is more than can be said about you two.
Or you could have volunteered in the MARINES or ARMY because your country needed you… You didn’t do that did you? Nope you found a way not to do your duty twice.
What branch of the military was “W” in again? Since apparently now some branches of the military are useless which is great news since now we can cut them and save TRILLIONS!
Sounds like you’re blaming America, Bill. America, if you missed the elections in 2008, elected the current president, and he is the leader of this country – so everytime you blame him YOU are blaming America. Hmm – must suck to be you!
Oh Bill gets OWNED again!
Yo-yo’s, your prez is doing a crappy job. Please explain otherwise.
He is your president too, unless you are really not american.
No, I have not noticed. I believe there are more caucasians that are “overly racist’ in their comments and beliefs”, then there are people of COLOR! You believe that certain BLACK people (4 total!) are racist. Shall we list all the KKK, Militia, Patriots, Politicians, Preachers, ‘etc’, that are racist? Shall we compare lists?
Does a black person (or people of color) have a reason to judge and make prejudical views of whites…You betcha! History has allowed those prejudicial views to exist, afterall. Do some of a ‘certain race’ distrust, YUP. There’s anger about how those of a ‘certain race’ have been treated throughout history, and find that in this day and age there is still many humans that feel the anger and distrust is not warranted and perhaps they should just lighten up and joke about it.
You go ahead and laugh at the racist jokes and feel that others are just too ‘politically correct’, if that gets you through the day. Do me a favor though, would ya? When you can comfortably tell one of these racist jokes that you find so humorous to a neighbor, co-worker, or friend who are of a ‘certain race’, let us know how that goes.
I’m ashamed of my dad and his racist ways.
It is funny how white people are the only ones who are not allowed to be Racist. They all stumble over themselves to make sure no one thinks or labels them racist.
I find it actually sad that racism even exists amongst the human race. In fact racism is actually encouraged and relished in many circles of society; many have the mindset that people of other color or ethnicity, are ‘inferior’ to the rest of society, hence racist jokes.
Those who do not harbor hatred towards others, have no need to stumble over themselves.
Uh wishful thinking. Racism has always existed and will always exist among every group of people on the planet. It is in our DNA, humans by nature distrust anything that is different or unfamiliar.
In America people have the right to be Racist if they choose. I have a problem with labeling a group of people like the Tea Baggers or Minutemen Racist. Why? because when someone does this they are strawmanning the entire group which essentially ends any discussion.
Are there Racist in the teabagger and Minutemen? Yep… what is sad is that the good people in those groups don’t condemn their own people when they show themselves to be out of line or racist. Don’t be fooled in thinking that Conservatives groups are the only people that have racists, these groups are just easy targets for such allegations.
Not wanting to pay for illegals immigrant from another country is reasonable.
I don’t necessarily see other’s differences (skin color or ethnicity) as something to distrust. We’re humans first and foremost. For me, it’s as simple as that. Instead of appreciating differences in each other and learning about, and from those differences, we are TAUGHT to fear them.
You are correct that racism is not just within those groups I mentioned previously and not ALL in those groups carry that hatred. I have seen enough racism to know that it’s NOT only conservatives that feel superior to others. You are also correct that people have the choice to be racist. I for one just cannot understand (it is not within me) why a person would want to feel hatred towards others because they are different or unfamiliar.
Perhaps if the groups were monitored more closely to identify those that have racist views, then they wouldn’t be such easy targets? Honestly, we only hear about the groups that have those members that seem to be quite vocal and ‘proud’ of their racist views. Then again, we cannot take their racist views away ’cause then we’d be taking away their first amendment right.
But I had to wonder after reading the ‘joke’ that was posted on SCV Tea Party website, why did they allow it to stay posted; did they approve of it?
Bill, you are the Caucasian version of those whom you detest (Although much less educated), and it’s sad that you use their racism to attempt to justify your own.
You are nasty, mean spirited and small minded. HA!
Was Bush your Prez?
Considering I voted for him twice and I am an American Citizen. The answer would undoubtedly be of course. I would have been crush if anything bad had happened to him, doesn’t mean I agree or even think he would an OK president.
1. Bush spent more money then any 5 presidents combined.
2. Led us into two war under false pretense.
3. Did nothing to curb the financial turmoil that was becoming evident circa 2006, even though it was the Republican championed Financial Modernization Act 2000 which allowed banks to get “to big to fail” and allowed subprime to go from 5% in 1999 to well over 30%. (only 60 members of congress had the sense to vote NO on this most of which were Democrats.)
Do you want me to keep going? Many of the things you are blaming Obama for were already there, you can argue that his decisions are fixing them fast enough. But like all teabaggers you come with all kinds of criticism but never any answers, you remind me of John Kerry in 2004.
Is President Obama your President?
Unfortunately, Obama is our Prez. As much as I disapproved W’s spending, Obama makes him look like a pauper. At least under Bush, prior to Dems taking Congress in ’06, the Dow was at 14K, unemployment at 4.7%, housing was doing great. Now look where we are! When will the great O be his own man? This guy points fingers everywhere – yesterday it was Europe’s fault for not going along with him by increasing spending. Do you personally spend your way out bad economic times? Of course not, so how can that idiotic strategy possibly work? I have hoped that O’s policies would fail, but so far he is succeeding sucking the life out of this once great country.
So, go ahead and stand up for him – I will not.
By the way, in ’04 I flew to D.C. simply to participate in a Veteran’s Anti John F’n Kerry Rally and it was great!
“I have hoped that O’s policies would fail”
That is in a nutshell why I detest you and others like you. You hoped for his failure before he even took office because you were too blind to realize that in doing so you were rooting against the success of this great nation. You and your kind are in such a hurry to shout I told you so that you would have been disappointed if Obama had put into place policies that work and improve this country.
When you hoped that Obama’s policies would fail you are in fact rooting for failures that affect our country on the whole.
No matter who our president is and no matter how much I rooted against them getting elected, on the day they take office I root for NOTHING but their overwhelming success at the job. You ARE exactly what you accused liberals of being during the Bush administration… Unpatriotic. You, Bill Reynolds, are a selfish, small minded coward who roots against his country so he can shout “See I told you Obama would be a bad president!”
Yes, Bill, he was. I didn’t vote for him, and he sure pissed me off some times, but I never disrespected him the way you do our current president. I was taught to behave better than that by my preacher/veteran father. The fact that you are incapable of behaving decently tells me that you are no true conservative – you’re just a jerk wearing the clothes of whatever is convenient.
You’re a fair-weather patriot, Bill – only proud of your country when it’s convenient. That’s an awfully sissy stance for someone who claims to be a veteran/patriot/legal citizen.
Do you claim to be a Christian as well? That’s a common association with tea party/fake conservative types, but your behavior on this blog has been far from Christ-like.
Sorry, Mike… Obama is killing this country.
You and people like you are killing and dividing this country, not Obama. Your counterparts on the extreme left are no better than you but you are ALL killing this country. You are anything but a patriot, regardless of past service to this Country and using it as a crutch to justify your hate speech. You are not a patriot.
Quick interjection to let Bill know that the dry cleaners called. Your hood is ready for pickup.
Gang Green, bring it me…
I bring it you.
Barnes & Noble also called, the book you ordered is in. “How To Act Like A Jilted 14 Year Old Lady GaGa Fan On The Internet”.
I bring it you as well?
Yes…
I bring it you. Yes.
Looks like the SCV Tea Party is just doing their part to resurrect the ’20s era Signal – http://westranchbeacon.com/blog/2010/06/the-time-ranger-local-cults-plane-crashes-and-cow-wrecks/
A question for Obama voters. If I asked you to name the top 5 reasons you voted for Obama based on his campaign promises could/would you do it? (not interested in the few promises he has kept. Just the promises that garnered your vote)
Could you please name the top 5 differences between Bush Policy and Obama’s?
The President-Elect had no contact or communication with Governor Blagojevich or members of his staff about the Senate seat. In various conversations with transition staff and others, the President-Elect expressed his preference that Valerie Jarrett work with him in the White House. He also stated that he would neither stand in her way if she wanted to pursue the Senate seat nor actively seek to have her or any other particular candidate appointed to the vacancy.
Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/06/30/faced-with-the-blagojevich-scandal-did-barack-obama-tell-the-whole-truth/?xid=rss-topstories#ixzz0sN3GuE8K
So Yes or No President Obama was born in Hawaii?
Top Reasons I Voted for the President:
1. More intelligent candidate
2. More coherent and rational
3. Felt good to elect minority candidate to show the smug Europeans and Canadians that the US is NOT a bunch of racist hillbillies.
Now that we have collectively shut up the Europeans and Canadians in 2012 I will apply the first two criteria. In a Romney/Obama race I might well vote for Romney. Guess who I vote for in a Palin/Obama race.
No one cares what you think Timmy…
Actually little billy no one cares what you think… you don’t see anyone in here running to your blog. Oh right… you don’t have one. HA! NOT! HA!
Niether do you, moron. Ha!
Sure about that?
I love the irony when a small minded ignoramus calls someone a moron but misspells the word “neither.” I know that typos happen but it always looks so funny in posts like his.
Tim,
I can appreciate all your reasoning on #1 & 2 – although I would beg to differ with them. You lost me with #3. Who gives a flying sideways hoot in hell what the Europeans and the Canucks think. I mean really! They will find ANY reason to criticize us as a people and as a country regardless who is in charge here. F -em Tim.
A host of European governments showed their lack of backbone with regard to the UN sanctions against Iraq in 2003 which resulted in a war and currently will repeat the same with the Iranian nuclear weapons issue.
Romney in 12, ya.
Palin in 12, think I’ll be busy that day.
I care about what Europeans and especially what Canadians think because they qualify under number 1 and 2.
3. Felt good to elect minority candidate to show the smug Europeans and Canadians that the US is NOT a bunch of racist hillbillies.
I rest my case!
Tim I will try and talk slower because you did not respond to my question. Read again:
If I asked you to name the top 5 reasons you voted for Obama BASED ON HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISES could/would you do it? (not interested in the few promises he has kept. Just the promises that garnered your vote)
I am still trying to get John Adams to denounce his Birther statements.
He refuses to confirm or deny his birtherism.
So you are saying that ANYONE with a D after their name would have got elected? Experience-leadership and managment skills did not matter?
Maybe the guys with “R” after their name should have done a better job.
So Johnny Boy back to the question you refuse to answer…
President Obama was born in which country?
1. United States
2. Kenya
3. Other _________
Sarah Palin’s platform was Drill Baby Drill… now we see that really means Spill, Baby Spill.
What is the alternative to oil/gasoline, moron?
What is the alternative to horses, moron?
He did promise to be the first Black President, right?
I had a pretty solid feeling about this simple question. Nobody on this site (except maybe 1) would be able to provide a quality answer.
But these same people feel qualified to determine who is the more intellectual candidate. LOL
I can help you guys out…….
Before the election it was…Yada Yada GITMO
Yada Yada Iraq
Yada Yada Transparency
Yada Yada No Tax increase if you make less that 250k
Yada Yada No Earmarks
Yada Yada No lobbyist
Yada Yada Eliminate Deficit in 5 years
Should I go on? Now I know none of you voted for Obama based on those silly reasons. So here is your opportunity to tell us what was the promises that swayed you to Obama
Next…..?
Wow that is an excellent debate tactic.
So you have learned something from our masterful leader
“Senator McCain’s first answer to this economic crisis was – get ready for it – a commission. That’s Washington-speak for ‘we’ll get back to you later.’”
“Folks, we don’t need a commission to spend a few years and a lot of taxpayer money to tell us what’s going on in our economy,” he continued. “We don’t need a commission to tell us gas prices are high or that you can’t pay your bills. We don’t need a commission to tell us you’re losing your jobs. We don’t need a commission to study this crisis, we need a President who will solve it – and that’s the kind of President I intend to be.”
So are you saying that nobody on this site was swayed by Obama’s promise to be out of Iraq in 15 months? Or to close Gitmo? Care to make a wager on this?
That was Bubba Clinton!
No promises ever garner my vote, JA. I just vote for who I think will be the best leader.
And to win that bet I would have to be able to go back to posts made 2 years ago on scvtalk forum and produce the post that says it is so. (or any other local forum)
Maybe you are saying intelligent people don’t vote on campaign promises?
( that might make a couple of people on here uncomfortable?)
I don’t have time tonight to dig into this as much as it deserves tonight, but if I had to explain my attraction to Obama as it related to Iraq, which probably would have been my chief concern in late 2007 when I decided, it would be that he wouldn’t be the sort of president to get us involved in something like Iraq in the first place. The speed of the withdraw mattered (and matters) far less than getting someone in the Oval Office that wouldn’t have made such a colossal blunder in the first place. Obama’s chief opponents, Clinton and McCain, supported the war.
The Iraq situation has cooled considerably while Obama has been in office, a decline that begin towards the end of Bush’s term. We are getting detangled from Iraq. I don’t know if it will ever be completely so, but I’m satisfied with the progress we’ve made. Most importantly, we have a President with a decidedly different approach to military affairs than the previous one. McCain’s approach would have matched the prior approach too closely for my tastes. So on the matter of Iraq it wasn’t, and isn’t, a contest.
Now that was a good response! I appreciate and somewhat agree with your points. But what got us over the hump in Iraq? The surge? What was Obama’s position on the surge?
What tactic is Obama using in Afghanistan?
Time 4 Top Chef! BBL
HAHAHA Reality show! Figures!
I know Obama opposed the surge, but it worked, so they will be using the same tactic in Afghanistan…and I think it says alot when the President is willing to change his opinion and move forward. Simple fact is no matter the Republican candidate was in 2008, they were going to lose, just like any dem would have lost in 1984 or any republican in 1976….why do you think Clinton stayed in so long?
Well if changing your opinion is good for you than obama is your man in 2012.
Funny you would mention Clinton. I believe he is back out there for a reason. To me it looks like Hillary is in the drivers seat for 2012.
Her interview a couple of weeks ago was the most presidential thing I have seen from the left in 10 years. I also factor in that the Clintons are loyal to no party or ideology. It is all about them.
I also am starting to believe Obama does not want a second term. He is in over his head and while I know none of you will admit it, the liberal pundits are starting to agree.
Remember pundits care about their career first. They will not let Obama take them down with him. Without the media support that Obama recieved in 2007 he hasd no chance in the upcoming election.
Mike, one other question. When Obama opposed the surge what was your take on the subject?
I agreed, and we were probably wrong.
Probably?
7-01-10
New jobless claims rise unexpectedly?
And how many people now will admit the Stimulus was not the best plan? A trillion dollar mistake! And some people were saying it was a bad plan the whole time it was being shoved down our throat.
Some people were saying it was a good plan some on here were saying “it might work”
Isn’t a trillion quite a bit to spend on something that might work?
What is the new democratic plan? Spend another trillion on a jobs bill! LOL The party of ideas!
Lets not forget other economic data that the stimulus has helped
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Pending-home-sales-plunge-rb-292307626.html?x=0&.v=3
Stimulus monies are being spent over a 3 year period, it wasn’t dumped into the economy all at one time…also if the gov’t didn’t do something I believe things would have been worse, also the gov’t will collect more money next year (bush tax cuts expire at the end of this year). Obama will be running again in 2012 and no Clinton will not be a candidate for office again.
As for the war, I believe he has listened to the Generals, reason for the surge in Afghanistan and the withdrawal from Iraq, which has started to commence, is based upon an Agreement that the Bush Admin. entered into.
So the General was not telling the truth when he said the military was NEVER consulted regarding troop withdrawl plan in Afghanistan?
Should he not be fired for lying?
The freeper who posted that link may have come to that conclusion, but you ought to listen to more than three seconds of that meeting. You will come to a different conclusion, I promise.
The Birther reads only things that fits his world view…
My favorite Stimulus term…….. Shovel Ready! LOLOLOLOL
Now for those of you in the “Obama would be a better leader” crowd.
What would you think of a president that offered up a plan for withdrawl from a war and never consulted the military? No phone call! No meeting to discuss the plan! Just a bunch of politicos pretending to be leaders. Is that the kind of leadership you are fond of? Just asking ?
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2010/07/petraeus-military-never-consulted-on.html
Where do you get the impression that the military was not consulted?
Care to retract?
I will but I can’t watch the video again from work. I will tonight if I was wrong.
Wow I was way off. Sorry!
The military was contacted. But it seems they were either not asked for their recommendation OR they gave their opinion on the matter and the Administration went with their own plan. (Is that better)
Mikec – don’t feed the birther till we have seen his birth certificate.
LOL!
Congrats America! the Birther has proclaimed America has won the war in Iraq, Your kenyan president hates this and is trying surrender in afganstan.
where is afganistan?
At some point all of you Obamite’s are going to realize how completely foolish he has made you all look. The smart ones have already jump ship. I bet most on this site will still be onboard in 2013 when unemployment is 16.9%
I needed just one reason to vote Obama, and it was revenge. And after reading the hysterical conversation here, watching Glenn Beck, etc – I got exactly what I voted for. Thank you very much.
No thank you! Could you please explain revenge? I am very interested
By the way, what would you claim as an Obama acomplishment so far?
Ah, the revenge voter. Love your thought process in the booth when deciding our country’s future. Well done, Sir.
I can’t wait for his well thought out response to explain the revenge he sought
you’re welcome – and figure it out yourselves
AND thank you – you just gave me 3 more posts of continued happiness!
Glad I could help.
Wow I thought he would be able to come up with some lame acomplisment. How about he picked North Carolina last year in basketball? That is the best I can come up with.
After last night I have kenny at 5 to 2 Angelo at 3 to 1 and Kelly at 4 to 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYfGCMORVoY&feature=popular
Hope this starts running 24/7 across the country