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By: Newhall Ranch: Not Your Parents’ Valencia | SCVTalk.com

Newhall Ranch: Not Your Parents’ Valencia | SCVTalk.com — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:42:44 +0000

[...] this is a follow up to Jeff’s post on Newhall Ranch, prompted by our on-site tour of the property with Newhall Land [...]

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By: Todd

Todd — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:39:24 +0000

I headed out to Ventura yesterday, and made a note to check the county line… there are no citrus orchards that I could see (unless they’re hidden up a valley somewhere) on the LA County side of the valley.

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By: Samuel Adams

Samuel Adams — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:25:01 +0000

I have seen the Master Plan which was on display at Newhall Land’s old offices (with the county stamp on it) and is on file at County’s Department of Planning which approved it in 1965.

I remember talking to officials at Newhall Land in 1987 just, before Santa Clarita Cityhood, about the Master Plan. This was right around the time that the Valenica Northbridge tract was breaking ground and this was a major move forward for Newhall Land. They knew what they wanted Valencia to be and were committed to sticking to their plan. Remember, Newhall Land chose to take on this project themselves rather than sell off the land to other developers to maintain control.

This of course was before Lennar, but when they say it was “built as promised” it was.

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By: navigator

navigator — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:53:40 +0000

These are some great photos guys! If you go into Mentryville and hike up the path to the top of Mustard Hill behind Felton School you can get a birds eye view of Potrero Canyon from there (and some really good exercise!).

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By: Andy

Andy — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:25:19 +0000

Where would one be able to view the original Master Plan? This stuff gets confusing, because Valencia was started before Nixon created the EPA and all that, and also twenty years before the City was incorporated, so it’s hard to know who has what.

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By: Samuel Adams

Samuel Adams — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:28:30 +0000

Spineflower…..these high rises on the original plan that show up on the walls of the Signal are from one single Signal front page from the 1960s when Valencia was announced and that was only for the Valencia Town Center. Indeed this concept changed as modern malls became more popular and county planners resisted the idea of high rises in a “rural” area. If you check the original maps and approved tracts, Valencia did indeed end up almost entirely as originally planned — Check the actual original 1965 adopted Master Plan. It is public record.

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By: GCRaya

GCRaya — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:00:52 +0000

Very neat. Do you have a Google Maps link? I am not very familiar with that area, even though I grew up in the SCV.

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By: spineflower2

spineflower2 — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:26:09 +0000

Don’t believe the “built as planned” baloney from NLF. The ORIGINAL Valencia had canals, not paseos. It was high-rise, not suburban. The newspaper stories including artist drawings are on the walls at the Signal.

And ask the neighbors of the hospital how closely the “original master plan” is being followed, with the (non-)hospital expansion becoming a reality.

NLF is banking on the ignorance and short memories of the valley to let them get away with these marketing lies.

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By: Jim Farley

Jim Farley — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:52:15 +0000

Coastal:

As I work in Santa Barbara for a while I’ve become very familiar with the 126 corridor from the SCV to Ventura. I can’t think of any citrus orchards that I’ve seen this side of the LA county line on my daily commute. The citrus orchards don’t really happen until you get out towards Piru. I’ll keep my eye out on future commutes to see if there are indeed some on the LA county side.

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By: Jim Farley

Jim Farley — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:45:15 +0000

Excellent posting Jeff and John. The photos are great. The ones with the cattle look more like a painting from 100 years ago.

Whether we like it or not it appears development here will be inevitable. The positive side of this recession is that it is putting the development off for a while. The bottom line is that the people have to live somewhere and the population will still be growing in California. I’m trusting that they do a responsible development like NL&F has done on the West side of town. That being said, I’m still very concerned on the traffic impact along the 5/14 corridor. Perhaps we’ll develop enough to provide more real jobs on this side of the pass???

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